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					<description><![CDATA[Tacit is the modified Adirondack Guideboat that I built for exploring and camp cruising the cold waters of the Pacific Northwest. It&#8217;s based on a 100 year old design that had been refined to perfection, which I then mucked with, ... <a title="An Adirondack Guideboat Built For The PNW" class="read-more" href="https://www.insidewaters.com/an-adirondack-guideboat-built-for-the-pnw/" aria-label="Read more about An Adirondack Guideboat Built For The PNW">Read More</a>]]></description>
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<p>Tacit is the modified Adirondack Guideboat that I built for exploring and camp cruising the cold waters of the Pacific Northwest. It&#8217;s based on a 100 year old design that had been refined to perfection, which I then mucked with, adapting its shape and materials to fulfill a new set of requirements. It&#8217;s built using very lightweight Paulownia wood with fiberglass skins, has sealed decks with buoyancy chambers, a downwind sail, rowing mirror and other unique features.</p>



<p>It was a multi-year project, acquiring and drying wood, designing and building, and making new boat friends along the way.</p>



<p>Below you can learn the inspiration and requirements of this boat and see how I built it.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Where Did The Desire For This Rowboat Come From?</h2>



<p>Nearly every day I walk from my house to a bluff with a view across the Strait of Juan De Fuca. To the north the San Juan Islands, to the east Whidbey Island with Mount Baker in the background, and five miles out to the west Protection Island and Discovery Bay.</p>


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<p>During the calmer summer months I started getting a strong desire for a capable little rowboat that I could throw on a bicycle trailer, peddle my ass down to North Beach, and launch for some explorations along the shoreline of the strait. Once in good rowing shape, I could see circumnavigating Protection Island, a 20 mile row from North beach, and exploring Discovery Bay.</p>



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<p>This is not a piece of water to take lightly though. It is big, with strong tidal currents; treacherous for even big boats in bad weather. I see folks in little boats and paddle boards out here, with seemingly little safety gear, but that is not me. To even consider it I wanted a rowboat capable of handling some waves, and with a turn of speed to overcome currents and wind, positive buoyancy for self recovery, with room enough for some safety gear and foul weather clothing. I also need to be able to carry it over some parking lot barriers to launch.</p>



<p>It also needs to be easily car-toppable, to access other local waters that don&#8217;t have trailer launch ramps for my other boats. Often it will hitch a ride on the cabin top of my <a href="https://www.insidewaters.com/category/lavro-sea-dory-details/" data-type="category" data-id="10">Lavro Power Dory</a>, with which I can quickly cross the strait heading north, or zip south to remoter areas of the Puget Sound. Once at a destination the dory become an anchored cabin, and the rowboat will be used for more intimate explorations.</p>



<p>It rowboat will also be used for multi-night camp cruising trips in the Salish and local lakes.</p>



<p><strong>My Rowboat Requirements:</strong></p>



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<li>A fast design proven to be capable of handling some coastal ocean conditions, waves and currents</li>



<li>Significant volume of positive buoyancy chambers for self recovery</li>



<li>Very lightweight, hopefully 65lbs or less, 16&#8242; in length or less, and 40&#8243; beam or less</li>



<li>Fixed seat rowing</li>



<li>It must be pretty</li>



<li>Good load carrying capability for some camping trips</li>



<li>Small downwind sail, but no foils</li>
</ol>



<p>And I am pleased to say that I just about achieved everything on that list, except the weight. It ended up being 79 lbs. A bit heavy for portaging on my shoulders, but doable. I made some weight compromises for durability, appearance and ease of construction. But it is still remarkably lightweight for a 16&#8242; rowboat with big decks and buoyancy chambers.</p>



<p>With the changes I was most worried about flattening the sheerline too much. But I am very pleased with how it looks. I tapered the outer gunnel height, reducing it as it reaches the ends, to convey a little more spring to the sheerline.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Choosing A Lightweight &amp; Capable Rowboat Design</h2>



<p>After a very thorough look at what was available, there was really only one design that almost fit my design brief, an Adirondack Guideboat. It had the speed, low weight, correct dimensions, and capability of handling some rough conditions. I figured I could use the basic hull shape functionality of a guideboat, and modify it to fit my other needs.</p>



<p>If you are unfamiliar, over a 100 years ago this boat was regularly being built to a weight of only 60 lbs, before any modern composites or glues. They are fully double ended, slender, low in the middle, with high ends, and tippy. Initial stability comes from sitting very low in the boat, like a kayak. They have very little wetted surface area for speed, but pick up lots of volume when people and gear are added. At first glance it might be mistaken for a canoe, but it is an entirely different creature.</p>


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<figure class="aligncenter size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="882" height="458" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/16-chase-agb-rob-davidson.jpg" alt="16' Chase Guideboat built by Rob Davidson" class="wp-image-2643" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/16-chase-agb-rob-davidson.jpg 882w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/16-chase-agb-rob-davidson-375x195.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/16-chase-agb-rob-davidson-768x399.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 882px) 100vw, 882px" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">16&#8242; Chase Guideboat Built By Rob Davidson (the same hull lines as my boat)</figcaption></figure>
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<p>They proved themselves as very capable boats that could be carried over long portages by guides. And in more recent years, they also commonly won the <a href="https://www.capeannrowingclub.com/race-course-blackburn-challenge">Blackburn Challenge Ocean</a> rowing races, for fixed seat. There have been very rough years of that race where some guideboats made it, when many other designs did not complete. <a href="https://adirondack-guide-boat.com/rowbat-customer-reviews/">Here you can read an exciting story that Brooks Towns</a> had in a production guideboat that he let me row, in the very waters I want my boat for. Another friend of mine has had a guideboat for a few years in the PNW. <a href="https://terrapintales.wordpress.com/2022/10/31/all-about-the-guideboat/">You can read about that here</a>.</p>



<p>I was able to row a couple of guideboats locally. And I liked them!</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Which Guideboat To Build?</h2>



<p>Now that I had settled on a guideboat the question was which boat to build? There are a few plans and kits available, most are based on the B. &amp; I. Parsons boat &#8220;GHOST&#8221;, but I did not find the lines of that boat pleasing.</p>



<p>Fortunately, through my process of research, I had made good friends with Rob Davidson and Allison Warner, two highly accomplished traditional guideboat builders on the east coast. Allison spent many years building reproductions of nearly every known design of guideboat for the Adirondack Museum, and Rob built a number of custom boats for clients. Together they offered a rare insight into this very rare form of boat building. And it turned out that Rob had a connection to Port Townsend, and planned to move here. Over a few years we have become good friends, and have had them to our home on visits.</p>



<p>Rob &amp; Allison gave me the lofted lines for what they consider to be one of the most refined guideboats, a 100 year old, 16&#8242; design by Caleb Chase, with a few of their own ideas added in. The boats they had built to these lines were drop dead gorgeous (pictured above), and are apparently not as &#8220;cranky&#8221; as many other guideboats. And my friends were cool with me using the lines in this experimental way.</p>



<p>Watch this video which happens to feature Rob and Allison and other guideboat builders to learn more.</p>



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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Choosing A Building Method &#8211; Strip Planked In Paulownia Wood</h2>



<p>Guideboats are traditionally built in a unique way, compared to other boats. They don&#8217;t use plans, or offsets. Instead each builder had their own full sized templates for the ribs, the bottom board and stems. Those are all cut out (the curved ribs from spruce roots), and joined together. Then the planks are attached over the ribs, each edge feathered together into a smooth round bottom, held together with a gazillion little nails. There are no building forms, other than a stand to hold it up for planking. In more recent years a few folks have created plans, and lofted lines. Most wooden shipwrights won&#8217;t touch one of these boats when repairs are needed. They require a specialized skill set. </p>


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<figure class="aligncenter size-large"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="623" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/agb-build-steps-rob-davidson-940x623.jpg" alt="Traditional guideboat being built." class="wp-image-2642" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/agb-build-steps-rob-davidson-940x623.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/agb-build-steps-rob-davidson-375x248.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/agb-build-steps-rob-davidson-768x509.jpg 768w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/agb-build-steps-rob-davidson.jpg 1200w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2642" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">My Friend Rob Davidson&#8217;s Shop Showing How A Traditional Guideboat Is Built</figcaption></figure>
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<p>I don&#8217;t have the skills to build a boat like that, nor the patience. And I desired a boat that was less a work of art, more durable, easier to clean out, and painted for active use and easy touch ups.</p>



<p>There are some production fiberglass/kevlar guideboats available. Why not start with one of those? Mostly because of weight. They start at over 70+ lbs. If I modified one with decks and hatches, it would likely be close to 100 lbs, and would be a foot shorter in length. </p>


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<figure class="alignright size-full is-resized"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="700" height="781" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/stickered-paulownia.jpg" alt="Pile of Paulownia wood." class="wp-image-2644" style="width:524px;height:auto" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/stickered-paulownia.jpg 700w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/stickered-paulownia-375x418.jpg 375w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Stickered Stack Of Paulownia Drying</figcaption></figure>
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<p>I decided to strip plank mine, which is now a fairly common way to build these boats, in Western Red Cedar.</p>



<p>But I had heard about a type of wood called Paulownia (or Empress Tree), that was about 30% lighter than Western Red Cedar, that some boat builders were using, particularly in Australia. It is not commonly used in the USA. It is one of the fastest growing trees in the world, so is very renewable, and a very good carbon sink. It can even regrow from a stump up to seven times.</p>



<p>Besides being very lightweight Paulownia glues well, without absorbing a bunch of like balsa does. It is very stable, and is not prone to rot. It&#8217;s even fire resistant. But it is definitely not as strong or as dense as cedar, and more prone to denting. So it is most suitable as a core material, with fiberglass on each side.</p>



<p>I happened to find a small mill in Aberdeen that had acquired a log of Paulownia, and bought up as many planks as they could get out of it. I stickered it and got it good and dry in my shop over a number of months.</p>



<p>It&#8217;s entertaining to hand someone one of these planks. When I let it go, their arms inevitably jerk up, expecting more weight, and they look at me in shock. The planks are crazy lightweight, and almost feel like foam boards.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Converting Guideboat Lines For Strip Planking</h2>



<p>The lines plan had full sized lofted rib profiles, stem profiles, and bottom board offsets, and the respective bottom board rocker and sheerlines. Actually there were only rib profiles for 1/4 the total number of ribs, because it is a fully double ended design, and symmetrical on each side as well.</p>



<p>First I used tracing paper to transfer the rib lines to plywood, that was going to be cut into station forms. I created half as many stations as there were ribs, except in the ends, where there is a lot of shape and hollow to the planks.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-large"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="497" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/transferring-guideboat-lines-940x497.jpg" alt="Guideboat lines plan." class="wp-image-2647" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/transferring-guideboat-lines-940x497.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/transferring-guideboat-lines-375x198.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/transferring-guideboat-lines-768x406.jpg 768w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/transferring-guideboat-lines.jpg 1200w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2647" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">The lines and bottom board offsets pictured are all I had to build from, other than email advice from Rob.</figcaption></figure>



<p>Besides converting the plans to a strip plank building method, I also made the following changes to the design:</p>



<ul class="wp-block-list">
<li><strong>No Ribs</strong> &#8211; The boat has no ribs, which are replaced by 4 oz S-glass inside and out.</li>



<li><strong>End Decks &amp; Buoyancy Chambers Bulkheads</strong> &#8211; There are large decks for and aft, full bulkheads, and access hatches. They are fully water tight. There is 6&#8242; of distance between the bulkheads, so I could technically lay down inside with the seat removed. I can&#8217;t imagine trying to sleep in this boat though.</li>



<li><strong>Less Freeboards In The Ends</strong> &#8211; Guideboats have very tall bows, necessary for an open boat designed to carry a heavy load in wavy conditions. But since I have sealed decks I decided to reduce windage and weight by lowering the ends, a good bit in the bow, more in the stern. I also slightly raised the center freeboard.</li>



<li><strong>Asymmetrical Sheerline</strong> &#8211; Fully double ended sheerlines have never really turned me on. So I moved the center of the sheerline curve slightly to the stern, about where the oarlocks sit.</li>



<li><strong>PNW Stems</strong> &#8211; I also was not drawn to the reverse curve of guideboat stems. Mine curve outboard, and the stem head shape is also more to my liking. They are also in inner and outer pieces.</li>



<li><strong>Backrest With Built In Portage Shoulder Pads</strong> &#8211; I can flip my entire seat around, and there are shoulder pads on the back of the back rest that make it so that I can put the boat up on my shoulders for portaging.</li>



<li><strong>Rowing Mirror Mast</strong> &#8211; There are holes in the stern deck that support a carbon fiber tube with a rowing mirror on top.</li>



<li><strong>Downwind Sail</strong> &#8211; See more about this below.</li>



<li><strong>Carbon Fiber Cart</strong> &#8211; The weight of the boat necessitates a moving cart. I did not like any production models. So I built one in some carbon fiber tubes I had laying around. The wheels can come off and it all fits into a hatch.</li>
</ul>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-large"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="697" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/carbo-fiber-boat-cart-940x697.jpg" alt="" class="wp-image-3128" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/carbo-fiber-boat-cart-940x697.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/carbo-fiber-boat-cart-375x278.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/carbo-fiber-boat-cart-768x570.jpg 768w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/carbo-fiber-boat-cart.jpg 1200w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="3128" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Carbon Fiber Cart I Built- Comes Apart &amp; Fits Inside Deck Hatches</figcaption></figure>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">The Downwind Sail Design</h2>



<p>I designed and built a downwind sail, stealing ideas from three others, a Dyson fan sail, a <a href="http://www.baloghsaildesigns.com/twins.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">BSD Twins sail</a> and a <a href="https://capefalconkayak.com/?s=sailing+rig" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Cape Falcon Canoe Rig</a>.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-large"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="544" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/adirondack-guideboat-sail-940x544.jpg" alt="" class="wp-image-2963" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/adirondack-guideboat-sail-940x544.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/adirondack-guideboat-sail-375x217.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/adirondack-guideboat-sail-768x444.jpg 768w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/adirondack-guideboat-sail.jpg 1200w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2963" /></figure>



<p>Since I first saw a picture of Dyson&#8217;s fan sail, probably 35 years ago, I have been enamored with its organic and beautiful appearance. Although the lack of forward visibility is unacceptable. The BSD Twins is a very good downwind sail for a small tippy boat. I stole the handle idea for controlling the two sheets, but ditched it after the first sail as being unnecessary. It&#8217;s easy to manage as a continuous line. From Cape Falcon I copied the very fast way the entire rig can be raised and dropped, without moving forward.</p>


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<figure class="alignleft size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="384" height="230" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/dyson-fan-sail.jpg" alt="" class="wp-image-2793" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/dyson-fan-sail.jpg 384w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/dyson-fan-sail-375x225.jpg 375w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 384px) 100vw, 384px" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Dyson Fan Sail</figcaption></figure>
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<figure class="alignright size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="500" height="375" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/bsd-twins-sail.jpg" alt="" class="wp-image-2794" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/bsd-twins-sail.jpg 500w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/bsd-twins-sail-375x281.jpg 375w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">BSD Twins Sail</figcaption></figure>
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<figure class="wp-block-image size-large no-lightbox"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="559" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/cape-falcon-canoe-sail-940x559.jpg" alt="" class="wp-image-2795" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/cape-falcon-canoe-sail-940x559.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/cape-falcon-canoe-sail-375x223.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/cape-falcon-canoe-sail-768x456.jpg 768w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/cape-falcon-canoe-sail.jpg 1200w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Cape Falcon Canoe Sailing Rig</figcaption></figure>



<p>My sail works great. Goes up in a second, and down as quick. For a quick 50% reef, just flop one side over to the other. Let go of the sheets completely and the rig flies forward, dumping all wind.</p>



<p>It is built from 4oz tanbark dacron material on the perimeters, with some 1oz spinnaker fabric in the middle and carbon tubes for the mast and booms/battens. The entire rig, in its storage bag, mast included, weights just 1.8 oz.</p>



<p>So far I have not needed a rudder. I just steer with the two sheets, and weight shifts in the boat. </p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Building Pictures</h2>


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<figure class="alignright size-full is-resized"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="600" height="1015" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/guideboat-forms.jpg" alt="" class="wp-image-2653" style="aspect-ratio:0.5911265321734324;width:266px;height:auto" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/guideboat-forms.jpg 600w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/guideboat-forms-375x634.jpg 375w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px" data-mwl-img-id="2653" /></figure>
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<p>I am not going to go into full details on how it was all built. It is much like any other strip planked small boat. Really the only thing unique is using Paulownia wood instead of Western Red Cedar, which I like a lot.  It is very easy to glue, it was very flexible, taking the complex curves nicely, and not toxic like WRC.</p>



<p>Paulownia will dent easier than Western Red Cedar. But I fiberglassed the boat inside and out in 4 ounce S-glass, doubling up over the bottom board top and bottom, and then added another 4 oz tape on the bottom corners and a bit up the stems, that will receive the most abuse. S-glass, compared to the more common E-glass, offers much higher tensile strength, elastic modulus, and greater stiffness, which will help reduce dents. I also added a bit of hardwood at the ends of the bottom board, and along the outer stems, to prevent impact denting.</p>



<p>I built a strongback and attached the cut out forms. The bottom board was attached next (also in 3/4&#8243; thick Paulownia), with a beveled wedge to receive the planking.</p>



<p>I used a two piece stem system. The inner stem allows the strips to easily lay along side, and to be cut off flush. Then the outer stem was epoxied to that surface, before glassing over.</p>


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<figure class="wp-block-image size-large"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="515" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/gp16-stripping-1-940x515.jpg" alt="" class="wp-image-2788" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/gp16-stripping-1-940x515.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/gp16-stripping-1-375x206.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/gp16-stripping-1-768x421.jpg 768w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/gp16-stripping-1.jpg 1200w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2788" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Planking With Paulownia Strips</figcaption></figure>


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<figure class="alignright size-full is-resized"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="600" height="806" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/guideboat-glassed-stern.jpg" alt="" class="wp-image-2966" style="aspect-ratio:0.7444249468501651;width:470px;height:auto" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/guideboat-glassed-stern.jpg 600w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/guideboat-glassed-stern-375x504.jpg 375w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px" data-mwl-img-id="2966" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Outer Stems On, Faired &amp; Fiberglassed</figcaption></figure>
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<figure class="alignleft size-full is-resized"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="700" height="1305" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/gp16-stripping-7.jpg" alt="" class="wp-image-2843" style="aspect-ratio:0.5363997487401866;width:429px;height:auto" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/gp16-stripping-7.jpg 700w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/gp16-stripping-7-375x699.jpg 375w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px" data-mwl-img-id="2843" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Planking Done &amp; Cleaned Up</figcaption></figure>
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<p>The boat only weighted 37 pounds with exterior glass. All the inside stuff nearly doubled that weight, with hatches, hardware, and lots of paint weight. The supports for the coamings look beefy, but are in Paulownia and weighed very little. Paulownia was also used for framing the deck hatches and deck supports.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-large"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="559" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/guideboat-inside-bulkheads-940x559.jpg" alt="" class="wp-image-2967" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/guideboat-inside-bulkheads-940x559.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/guideboat-inside-bulkheads-375x223.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/guideboat-inside-bulkheads-768x457.jpg 768w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/guideboat-inside-bulkheads.jpg 1200w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2967" /></figure>



<p>The gunnels were made of vertical grain spruce, leftovers from the building of Tally Ho&#8217;s spars. There is a tiny bit of purple heart integrated into the inner gunnel for the oarlocks. 3mm Okoume marine grade plywood was used for the bulkheads and decks.</p>



<p>Next I glued on the decks, added a few items inside to support the seat and foot brace, and then painted. I installed tie points to lash gear inside the decked areas and cockpit.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-large"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="551" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/guideboat-pre-paint-940x551.jpg" alt="" class="wp-image-2968" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/guideboat-pre-paint-940x551.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/guideboat-pre-paint-375x220.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/guideboat-pre-paint-768x451.jpg 768w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/guideboat-pre-paint.jpg 1200w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2968" /></figure>



<p>I hated my first foot brace design. The boat now has a very simple carbon fiber tube that goes across, with many adjustment points.  </p>



<p>I already owned that pair of 8&#8242; Shaw &amp; Tenney spruce oars, so I cleaned them up with six coats of varnish, put on new leathers and gave them a try. I did not like them on this boat. They are not flexible enough, and not balanced with the big overlap required on this narrow boat.</p>



<p>I am currently building new oars that are much more like traditional guideboat oars, with pinned oarlocks. They are unlike oars from any other craft, with very slender dimensions, and lots of spring. Sometimes, the reason for the way things were done traditionally becomes crystal clear with direct experience of the boat.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-large"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="461" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/new-guideboat-oars-2-940x461.jpg" alt="" class="wp-image-3155" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/new-guideboat-oars-2-940x461.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/new-guideboat-oars-2-375x184.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/new-guideboat-oars-2-768x376.jpg 768w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/new-guideboat-oars-2.jpg 1200w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="3155" /></figure>



<p>Of course I am going to muck with them a bit, and instead of extra boxy wood in the upper looms, I am going to make them more slender, and balance them out with lead inside the handles.</p>



<p>I also had to have some custom oarlocks made for these, because no one had any traditional pinned guideboat oarlocks in stock.</p>



<p>I am actually building two sets of oars, all from one big cherry plank. The working oars will be 8&#8242; long, for less windy and downwind conditions, and a 7&#8242; 6&#8243; pair for upwind conditions. It will be comforting to have an extra pair of oars on longer adventures, in case one breaks.</p>



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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2023 17:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s nasty work, sanding, grinding and chopping unnecessary stuff off of a 40 year old polyester resin fiberglass boat. It stinks, and it&#8217;s bad for my health, even covered head to foot in protection. I really had to up my ... <a title="Lavro Dory Gets A New V-Berth" class="read-more" href="https://www.insidewaters.com/lavro-dory-gets-new-v-berth/" aria-label="Read more about Lavro Dory Gets A New V-Berth">Read More</a>]]></description>
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<p>It&#8217;s nasty work, sanding, grinding and chopping unnecessary stuff off of a 40 year old polyester resin fiberglass boat. It stinks, and it&#8217;s bad for my health, even covered head to foot in protection. I really had to up my game in terms of good sanders and dust collection for this job. Yuck. No more old fiberglass boat projects for me.</p>



<p>I decided to take a break from this unpleasant path. It was starting to feel like all I was doing was destroying a boat. I needed to see some visual progress, to build something fun.</p>



<p>So I decided to rebuild the v-berth area. If you have been following along, you may recall that I had to tear out the sealed bow area, to remove the old fuel tank within. And a little further back in the boat are two boxes/seats that used to have some live fish wells inside, with thru-hull drains. After finishing up the plan for my new cabin, I decided that the position of the original v-berth and those fish well boxes could remain. I would bridge between them, leaving open storage areas between.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="686" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-dory-v-berth-removal.jpg" alt="Lavro dory v-berth removed" class="wp-image-2413" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-dory-v-berth-removal.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-dory-v-berth-removal-375x274.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-dory-v-berth-removal-768x560.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2413" /></figure>



<p>First I had to clean up where the gas tank had been sitting. The fiberglass was not very saturated with resin in that area, and there was fuel residue. So after a bunch more cleaning and sanding I filled in the fiberglass weave with thickened epoxy. </p>



<p>I also added in a new hardwood block for the bow tow ring, just above the v-berth. And you can see on the floor in front of the v-berth I have glued back in the <a href="https://www.insidewaters.com/lavro-dory-foam-core-discovery/">6&#8243; plug I had removed</a> to inspect and remove water from the foam core floor. It is now dry below.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="664" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-dory-v-berth-filled.jpg" alt="V-berth filled and faired" class="wp-image-2411" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-dory-v-berth-filled.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-dory-v-berth-filled-375x265.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-dory-v-berth-filled-768x543.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2411" /></figure>



<p>Next I decided to reuse the original fiberglass bulkhead, and epoxied it back in place, after fairing it up a bit. Then I installed five tie down points made out of dyneema line inside the bow area. They would be for lashing down heavy items like anchors in that compartment for rough passages. And then some structural supports were put in place for the new marine plywood top, and for the waterproof hatch. Finally I painted inside with grey Interlux Bilgekote enamel.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="660" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-dory-v-berth-rebuilding.jpg" alt="V-berth front wall and top supports installed" class="wp-image-2412" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-dory-v-berth-rebuilding.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-dory-v-berth-rebuilding-375x263.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-dory-v-berth-rebuilding-768x539.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2412" /></figure>



<p>What a pain those boxes were. The sides had curves, and the tops were saggy. So I had to spend a bit of time adding new wood tops, to make it all level and fair. And I could not stand the unfaired fiberglass panels, so added a bit of fill with thickened epoxy.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="705" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-live-wells-topped.jpg" alt="" class="wp-image-2416" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-live-wells-topped.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-live-wells-topped-375x281.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-live-wells-topped-768x576.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2416" /></figure>



<p>That done, I added supports between the old live wells and the v-berth area. Then some hot glue and lightweight scraps of wood were used to make quick templates for the plywood tops.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="423" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-dory-v-berth-template.jpg" alt="Template made from hot glue and scraps" class="wp-image-2414" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-dory-v-berth-template.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-dory-v-berth-template-375x169.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-dory-v-berth-template-768x346.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2414" /></figure>



<p>Then the plywood tops were epoxied on, and filleted to the hull sides. The exposed edges were rounded over with a router. And then a layer of 4oz fiberglass was applied, for abrasion resistance, and to tie it in more structurally to the hull sides.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="800" height="881" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-live-wells-topped-2.jpg" alt="Gluing on the the plywood top" class="wp-image-2409" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-live-wells-topped-2.jpg 800w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-live-wells-topped-2-375x413.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-live-wells-topped-2-768x846.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px" data-mwl-img-id="2409" /></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="633" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-v-berth-fiberglassed.jpg" alt="V-berth completed with fiberglass on top" class="wp-image-2437" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-v-berth-fiberglassed.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-v-berth-fiberglassed-375x253.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-v-berth-fiberglassed-768x517.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2437" /></figure>



<p>With this work the boat will have three big waterproof compartments for gear storage, which will also serve as reserve buoyancy in the boat for the worst case scenario of flooding. And the area between is open faced, for the storage of a toilet, spare anchors, and other gear. There are dyneema tie points in that area as well, to secure the gear for rough weather.</p>



<p>I am very pleased with how the new sleeping platform for two people has turned out, with all the storage below. And it will all weigh a lot less than what was removed.</p>



<p>The rear Alaskan bulkhead of the cabin comes next. Oh, and if I can make myself do it, more destruction is required, laying on my back and removing some areas of gelcoat on the underside of the hull, to get it ready for the <a href="https://www.insidewaters.com/lavro-dory-stern-chine-replacement/" data-type="post" data-id="2161">new chine wings</a>.</p>



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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2023 22:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Last weekend I thoroughly enjoyed the Wooden Boat Festival in here in Port Townsend. I have attended for 30 years or so, off and on. The amount of work and effort it takes to put on this event, and how ... <a title="2023 Wooden Boat Festival Video and Favorites" class="read-more" href="https://www.insidewaters.com/2023-wooden-boat-festival/" aria-label="Read more about 2023 Wooden Boat Festival Video and Favorites">Read More</a>]]></description>
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<p>Last weekend I thoroughly enjoyed the Wooden Boat Festival in here in Port Townsend. I have attended for 30 years or so, off and on. The amount of work and effort it takes to put on this event, and how well it is organized, is a real testament to the Northwest Maritime Center and Wooden Boat Foundation. And Port Townsend has to be unique in how many people volunteer to make it a great festival.</p>



<p>When younger, I used to try and take in the entire show. But as my boat interests have evolved, it is the small boats that draw my eye, and the unique characters who own them. I still have a massive appreciation for the beauty of the larger craft, and the labor of love and expertise and money that goes into them. And you can&#8217;t beat the sight of all those tall ships cutting swiftly across the bay during the Schooner Race and Sunday Sail By.</p>



<p>If you missed the show, check out the video below. I rowed my <a href="https://www.insidewaters.com/category/clc-skerry-details/" data-type="category" data-id="5">Skerry</a> all around the marina. It&#8217;s 15 minutes long, so probably not that interesting for folks who attended the show. Each day was unique, from dense fog, to blue skies. I was actually sore for a few days from all the rowing back and forth from the boat launch a number of times.</p>



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<p>There were four sail/oar boats that I particularly enjoyed seeing this year.</p>


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<p>The first is the HV-16 designed and built by my friend Eric Hvalsoe. Eric is a very skilled boat builder and designer out of Seattle WA. The boat is traditionally built, with a lug-yawl rig. He has done a lot of camp cruising in this boat. The HV-16 in my eyes is a great compromise between sailing performance and rowing, all wrapped up in beautiful lines. Eric has been very helpful with suggestions on my own boat.</p>



<p>Eric also designed the glued-lap HV-18, built and owned by Tim Yeadon. This is another best in class sail/oar boat, with a lug-yawl rig. Tim has extensively camp cruised this boat. Although I knew of Tim, this was our first time meeting. We had some good chats, and seem to have a few things in common outside of sail/oar boats, like our motor boat desires. He is currently putting together a 19&#8242; Bartender. We both have had ideas of doing a Vancouver Island circumnavigation in our motor boats (see my <a href="https://www.insidewaters.com/category/lavro-sea-dory-details/">Lavro Dory</a>). So who knows, maybe we will cruise together.</p>



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<figure class="aligncenter size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="800" height="500" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/hvalsoe-18-haverchuck.jpg" alt="Hvalsoe HV-18 Boat" class="wp-image-2317" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/hvalsoe-18-haverchuck.jpg 800w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/hvalsoe-18-haverchuck-375x234.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/hvalsoe-18-haverchuck-768x480.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px" data-mwl-img-id="2317" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Tim Yeadon&#8217;s HV-18 Haverchuck</figcaption></figure>
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<p>There was also a nice 14&#8242; Vivier designed Alur, again with a lug-yawl rig. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@RogerRoving" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Roger Barnes in his popular YouTube videos</a> and dinghy cruising book greatly popularized this design.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="697" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/vivier-alur-wooden-boat-festival.jpg" alt="14 Foot Alur Dinghy" class="wp-image-2336" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/vivier-alur-wooden-boat-festival.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/vivier-alur-wooden-boat-festival-375x278.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/vivier-alur-wooden-boat-festival-768x569.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2336" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Vivier designed Alur</figcaption></figure>



<p>The final favorite is a new 14&#8242; sail/oar boat prototype designed by my friend Brandon Davis of <a href="https://www.turnpointdesign.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Turnpoint Design</a> here in Port Townsend. I had seen the boat in Brandon&#8217;s shop being built, but this was the first time in the wild. <a href="https://duckworks.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Duckworks</a> will be offering a kit for it in the future, maybe called the Super Scout. It borrows the same open center layout with offset daggerboard as the Scout, a similar simple sail rig, while adding a bit of length. The beam has been kept narrow, which will make it easy to row. It is a very lightweight and simple boat.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="857" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/super-scout-14.jpg" alt="14' Super Scout Sail/Oar Boat" class="wp-image-2320" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/super-scout-14.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/super-scout-14-375x342.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/super-scout-14-768x700.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2320" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Scout 14 (Super Scout)</figcaption></figure>



<p>I also really enjoyed seeing the four Thunderbird 26&#8242; sailboats all lined up, including the <a href="https://woodenboat.org/highlights/2023-highlights/historic-thunderbird-sailboats-1-and-2/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">prototype model #1 launched in 1958, and #2 in 1959</a>. These are iconic NW boats, that are still very fast sailers to this day. There are a mess of them in the Boat Haven in Port Townsend. I used to own one and sailed most of the Inside Passage in BC in it, just shy of Alaska. On the way up I explored deep into a number of inlets, including through one of the fastest tidal rapids in the world, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRrRkCaUb68" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Nakwakto Rapids</a>, to access Seymour Inlet. Not an ideal boat for the trip, but it worked.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="692" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/four-thunderbird-sailboats-dock.jpg" alt="Four Thunderbird sailboats at the Wooden Boat Festival in Port Townsend" class="wp-image-2316" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/four-thunderbird-sailboats-dock.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/four-thunderbird-sailboats-dock-375x276.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/four-thunderbird-sailboats-dock-768x565.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2316" /></figure>



<p>I did not take as many pictures during this festival as in the past. I decided to spend more time just rowing around, talking to folks, and enjoying the festival. But here are a few.</p>


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<figure class="aligncenter size-full is-resized"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="700" height="933" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/wood-boats-anchored-fog.jpg" alt="" class="wp-image-2323" style="width:600px" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/wood-boats-anchored-fog.jpg 700w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/wood-boats-anchored-fog-375x500.jpg 375w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px" data-mwl-img-id="2323" /></figure>
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<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="589" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/three-people-peapod-eating-apples.jpg" alt="Three people eating apples in a peapod dinghy. Port Townsend waterfront." class="wp-image-2321" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/three-people-peapod-eating-apples.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/three-people-peapod-eating-apples-375x235.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/three-people-peapod-eating-apples-768x481.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2321" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Appledore peapod? Nope. Apple eaters in a peapod.</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="638" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/wooden-boats-dock-fog.jpg" alt="Colorful wood boats at the dock in the fog in Port Townsend." class="wp-image-2313" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/wooden-boats-dock-fog.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/wooden-boats-dock-fog-375x255.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/wooden-boats-dock-fog-768x521.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2313" /></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="714" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/wineglass-wherry-red.jpg" alt="Red Wineglass Wherry rowing into shore." class="wp-image-2322" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/wineglass-wherry-red.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/wineglass-wherry-red-375x285.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/wineglass-wherry-red-768x583.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2322" /></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="696" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/skin-boat-fog-wbf.jpg" alt="Kayak and fishing boat in the fog in Port Townsend" class="wp-image-2319" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/skin-boat-fog-wbf.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/skin-boat-fog-wbf-375x278.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/skin-boat-fog-wbf-768x569.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2319" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Notice the new whale skeleton up on the pier.</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="551" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/point-hudson-festival-rower-fog.jpg" alt="Wherry rowing in the fog in the marina at the Port Townsend Wooden Boat Festival" class="wp-image-2318" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/point-hudson-festival-rower-fog.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/point-hudson-festival-rower-fog-375x220.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/point-hudson-festival-rower-fog-768x450.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2318" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">My friend Brice, in his Merry Wherry. He was at the boat ramp at 6 am to row with me!</figcaption></figure>



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					<description><![CDATA[Last month I had the good fortune to join two friends on a three day cruise, circumnavigating Harstine Island, in south Puget Sound. Normally, trips like these are all about the natural experience, the beauty, the peace, the near death ... <a title="Observations On Sail And Oar Boat Sizes" class="read-more" href="https://www.insidewaters.com/observations-on-sail-and-oar-boat-sizes/" aria-label="Read more about Observations On Sail And Oar Boat Sizes">Read More</a>]]></description>
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<p>Last month I had the good fortune to join two friends on a three day cruise, circumnavigating Harstine Island, in south Puget Sound. Normally, trips like these are all about the natural experience, the beauty, the peace, the near death moments, like my trip to <a href="https://www.insidewaters.com/sucia-by-sail-and-oar/" data-type="post" data-id="1681">Sucia</a> last year.</p>



<p>But this trip ended up being much more about the friends I was traveling with, and let&#8217;s face it, their boats. There is no rule about heavily coveting some other man&#8217;s boat, and taking sexy pictures of it, right? They were both in sail and oar boats designed by Iain Oughtred. And I was very keen to see how they compared to my little sail oar boat, although I knew setting out that there was really no comparison.</p>



<p>One boat was an Artic Tern, belonging to my friend Bruce, who has soloed it the length of the Inside Passage (<a href="https://terrapintales.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">read his entertaining stories here</a>). And the other was a Ness Yawl, built and crewed by my talented new friend Dan. They are very similar boats, one 18&#8242; in length, the other 19&#8242;, with nearly identical beams, 62&#8243; and 64&#8243;, and designed to weigh between 240 to 260 pounds. They both sport lug yawl rigs, and both are drop dead gorgeous boats.</p>



<p>For many, Iain Oughtred&#8217;s designs represent the very best sail and oar camp cruising boats you can build and use. To my eye they are the most beautiful of the type, and are known to be capable of handling challenging ocean conditions, while not being too heavy. Pulling all of that off is some trick, because designing a small boat that can both row and sail well is challenging. The ideal hull shapes for each are rather dissimilar.</p>



<p>By quick comparison, my <a href="https://www.insidewaters.com/modifying-a-clc-skerry-for-overnight-cruising/" data-type="post" data-id="1199">modified CLC Skerry</a> is 15&#8242; long, has a 54&#8243; beam, and weighs about 125 lbs empty. And this is one of those situations that shows you how just a little bit of extra length and beam in a similar shaped hull quickly turns into a much more substantial boat, with all the associated pros and cons. My boat Joy appeared a bit toy-like next to theirs, and could handily fit inside theirs. You can sort of get a sense of that from the picture below, taken by Bruce.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="627" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/three-sail-oar-boats-rafted.jpg" alt="Three sail and oar boats rafted up for dinner in South Puget Sound." class="wp-image-2199" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/three-sail-oar-boats-rafted.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/three-sail-oar-boats-rafted-375x250.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/three-sail-oar-boats-rafted-768x512.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2199" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Rafted for dinner inside Dickenson Point &#8211; Picture by Bruce</figcaption></figure>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Where Did We Go?</h2>


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<figure class="alignright size-full is-resized"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="879" height="1425" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/harstine-by-sail-and-oar-map-1.jpg" alt="Map of our route circumnavigating Harstine Island." class="wp-image-2246" style="width:405px" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/harstine-by-sail-and-oar-map-1.jpg 879w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/harstine-by-sail-and-oar-map-1-375x608.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/harstine-by-sail-and-oar-map-1-768x1245.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 879px) 100vw, 879px" data-mwl-img-id="2246" /></figure>
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<p>Before we get into the more interesting stuff of talking about sail/oar boat sizes, let&#8217;s get this rundown of where we went and what we experienced out of the way.</p>



<p>Our little trio of sail and oar boats traveled about 32 miles, over two and a half days, circumnavigating Harstine Island clockwise. Harstine is ten miles north of Olympia, in south Puget Sound, and is not too big, just ten miles long and three wide. So it was no great effort to get around it. </p>



<p>We had planned on venturing further, but had a serious lack of wind the first two days. And it was stupid hot for this early in the year, with temperatures in the high 80&#8217;s to low 90s. By the way, did you know that if you varnish yourself with seven or eight consecutive layers of sunscreen you can achieve a superior state of weather protection?</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Day 1</h3>



<p>A couple of us launched at Arcadia, close to Shelton, and the third from a ramp more to the east (I never learned where), and met up on the east side of Hope Island. We then rowed up the west side of Squaxin Island, and continued up Pickering Passage. We had a good strong current moving with us up the side of Harstine Island. So much so that we really did not need to row, and at times just sat round chatting as the shore passed by. At one point we were almost in a circle. I grabbed my camera to take a picture of their beautiful boats, and laughed to find we were all a bunch of circle jerks, each with a camera in hand.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="663" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/taking-pictures-of-eachothers-boats.jpg" alt="Two Iain Oughtred designed sail and oar boats." class="wp-image-2210" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/taking-pictures-of-eachothers-boats.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/taking-pictures-of-eachothers-boats-375x264.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/taking-pictures-of-eachothers-boats-768x542.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2210" /></figure>



<p>Eventually we ended up in Jarrell Cove State Park. We stretched our legs on shore, used the facilities, and then tucked ourselves back behind the park dock, in very shallow water. After rafting up for a social dinner, we separated for a glassy calm night on the hook, with a big tide rise called for.</p>



<p>In the middle of the night I woke up to a soft banging on my boat. Peaking out of my tent I was surprised to see I had drifted nearly under the state dock. Turns out I had not put out enough anchor line, and the rising tide had floated my anchor. Stupid of me, but no harm done, and a good lesson; one that I thought I had already learned years ago. The upside of the incident was rowing back into position through a bioluminescent light show with every oar stroke.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="705" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/rafted-up-jarrell-cove.jpg" alt="Rafted up for dinner in Jarrell Cove." class="wp-image-2206" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/rafted-up-jarrell-cove.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/rafted-up-jarrell-cove-375x281.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/rafted-up-jarrell-cove-768x576.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2206" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Rafted up for dinner &#8211; in Jarrell Cove</figcaption></figure>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Day 2</h3>



<p>The next morning we rowed up around the north tip of Harstine, and hung out for nearly an hour on the water at Dougall Point, hoping for wind. Dan and I snacked and chatted a bit, while Bruce did some sketching. But no luck with the wind.</p>


<div class="wp-block-image">
<figure class="alignright size-full is-resized"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="700" height="897" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/waiting-dougall-point.jpg" alt="Hanging out waiting for wind around Dougall Point." class="wp-image-2209" style="width:500px" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/waiting-dougall-point.jpg 700w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/waiting-dougall-point-375x481.jpg 375w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px" data-mwl-img-id="2209" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Waiting for wind &#8211; Dougall Point</figcaption></figure>
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<p>So we continued to row down to McMicken Island State Park, with a short stretch of sailing. We hung out in the shade at the park there for a number of hours. The tide was dropping some 14 feet that day, and Dan and I had to regularly reposition our boats just offshore, using anchor buddies (giant bungee cords). Bruce anchored out and bummed a ride to shore in a dinghy from another sailing family. Note if you visit here that there is a bunch of Poison Oak along the shoreline at McMicken. Fortunately Bruce recognized it before any of us touched it.</p>



<p>It was here that a woman off another boat gave Bruce a very expensive block of truffle cheese. Odd. Pity cheese, you might suspect? For surely these thin, ripe gentlemen must be starving, having rowed from the horizon to this sandy shore, on a blistering hot day? No, not pity cheese. Tribute cheese, we elected to believe. For we three bold adventurers, in our motorless wood boats crafted with our own hands, must cut quite a spectacle of virility, compared to the weak chinned specimens available, that arrived through a haze of sensory corruption, aboard floating motor homes made of frozen-snot, through no effort of mind or body or skill. OK, it was probably pity cheese. It was damn good pity cheese, thrown on a cracker with some smoked Salmon Dan shared.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="705" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/scouting-mcmicken-island.jpg" alt="Rowing along the shore at McMicken Island Sate Park." class="wp-image-2208" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/scouting-mcmicken-island.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/scouting-mcmicken-island-375x281.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/scouting-mcmicken-island-768x576.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2208" /></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="705" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/anchored-mcmicken-island.jpg" alt="Two double ended boats using anchor buddies close to shore." class="wp-image-2207" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/anchored-mcmicken-island.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/anchored-mcmicken-island-375x281.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/anchored-mcmicken-island-768x576.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2207" /></figure>



<p>We had intended to stay the night, but in the afternoon a nice wind came up from the northeast that was too enticing not to use. So we headed off, and crossed the sand bar between McMicken Island and Harstine, with just a few inches of water below our keels, and sailed south down Case Inlet. </p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="705" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/rowbird-mount-rainer.jpg" alt="Lug Yawl sail and oar boat with Mount Rainier in the background." class="wp-image-2212" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/rowbird-mount-rainer.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/rowbird-mount-rainer-375x281.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/rowbird-mount-rainer-768x576.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2212" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Bruce, Row Bird &amp; Mount Rainier</figcaption></figure>


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<figure class="alignright size-full is-resized"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="500" height="543" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/joy-sailing-south-sound.jpg" alt="Skerry sailboat sailing in south Puget Sound." class="wp-image-2227" style="width:500px" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/joy-sailing-south-sound.jpg 500w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/joy-sailing-south-sound-375x407.jpg 375w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px" data-mwl-img-id="2227" /></figure>
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<p>Typical though, the wind mostly died a short time later, and I started to row again, to get around Wilson Point. The other two boats were further out in the channel and had put a bit of distance on me. We were headed for Henderson Inlet. The wind came up a little again and I sailed crossed the channel to Henderson. My travel companions selected a more eastern approach, closer to Johnson Point, and seemed to run out of wind for awhile, and I gained a little ground on them. And around the time the wind died for me again, they got  too much wind. I was rowing, they were swearing. </p>



<p>Despite our different boat sizes and routes, we all ended up arriving at nearly the same time. We were fairly tired at this point and opted to anchor just behind Dickenson Point. That was probably a mistake, because for the first half of the night we had rolling waves that made for little sleep. My rudder was constantly clunking, which had me fretting about stronger attachments, with closer tolerances. We probably should have continued on down into Woodard Creek for better rest.</p>



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<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="609" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/row-bird-bedded-down.jpg" alt="Double ended dinghy at anchor with tent up." class="wp-image-2215" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/row-bird-bedded-down.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/row-bird-bedded-down-375x243.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/row-bird-bedded-down-768x498.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2215" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Bruce ready for some sleep.</figcaption></figure>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Day 3</h3>



<p>The next morning the weather report was not good. It was already blowing a steady 10 knots, and was calling for gusts from 20 to 30 later in the day. So we cut out early. Dan sailed off, and took a long time short tacking his way north until he rounded Johnson Point, heading east. Bruce and I opted to row against the wind and then continued to row mostly downwind through Danna Passage to the west. Not long into our row Dan contacted us on the radio and recommended drysuits and reefed sails, because he was experiencing some very gusty conditions. I was already in my drysuit. But we tucked into Big Fishtrap Inlet, and did put a reef in, while checking out the many Sand Dollars in the shallows. We still ended up rowing across Danna Passage, to Brisco Point, because the wind was very gusty.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="629" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/galen-rowing-joy-south-sound.jpg" alt="Rowing Joy, my modified CLC Skerry, with the Olympic Mountains in the background." class="wp-image-2216" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/galen-rowing-joy-south-sound.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/galen-rowing-joy-south-sound-375x251.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/galen-rowing-joy-south-sound-768x514.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2216" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Another nice shot from Bruce, with the Olympic Mountains in the background.</figcaption></figure>



<p>At that point I got fooled into thinking the breeze had stabilized. So I put up a reefed sail, only to take it down very shortly after. The wind was still stubbornly gusty. I would go from barely moving, to white knuckling the tiller, as my double ended dinghy started surfing, an unnatural activity for her. As we entered Squaxin Passage, and headed north around Hope Island, the wind became even stronger. We ended up crossing Pickinger Passage to our ramp in a steady 10-15 knot wind, that was mixed with stronger gusts. With conditions forecast to get windier, we called it an early day, and pulled our boats out at Arcadia. I had a beautiful drive up the Hood Canal on my way home to Port Townsend.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Observations On Sail And Oar Boat Sizes</h2>



<p>OK, now the interesting stuff. But first some rules. Rule #1 &#8211; get it out of your head right now that what I am about to say are suggestions for you or anyone else, or in some way judging my friend&#8217;s boat choices. Nope, these are just my current thoughts on what I like in a sail/oar boat; for me. Me, me, me. Rule #2 &#8211; there is no such thing as the perfect sail/oar boat. Any such comments are pure hubris in my mind. This type of boat in particular is a pile of compromises.</p>



<p>Traveling with my friends on this trip, two things really stood out to me.</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Bigger Boats Are More Stable</h3>



<p>Duh. And I knew that. But experiencing the actual difference between the stability of their boats and mine was illuminating on a different level. Their boats were massively more stable, when a human body was moving around within, and could clearly carry a much greater load, in gear or people. These guys can stand on a rail, or even up next to their masts in the bow or stern (like Dan is below). Sure the boats heel a bit, but there is plenty of stability for that type of activity.</p>



<p>By comparison, I can very carefully stand on a seat close to the rail in the center of the boat, and the boat nearly dips a rail. And I definitely cannot put any significant weight off center up in the bow or stern without the boat saying to me, &#8220;absolutely not, I will dump your ass in the water&#8221;. Notice in the picture below, that even though my boat is evenly loaded with a bunch of cruising gear weight, my weight still squats the boat down in the stern.</p>



<p>The greater stability of their boats makes them more comfortable to hang out on when the boat is at rest, and certainly more comfortable when the wind and waves are up and they are sailing, when my boat becomes very athletic. Although my boat is easier to deal with on the shore.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="641" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/sail-oar-stability-standing-stern.jpg" alt="Chatting in our boats while waiting for wind." class="wp-image-2202" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/sail-oar-stability-standing-stern.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/sail-oar-stability-standing-stern-375x256.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/sail-oar-stability-standing-stern-768x524.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2202" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Dan demonstrating the comfortable stability of his larger boat.  Picture by Bruce.</figcaption></figure>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading">The Larger Boats Were Slower Under Oars</h3>



<p>The other stand out difference, was that my boat was noticeably quicker under oars. This is something I have theorized about in the past when traveling alone, but was proven out in the company of these larger boats. As every armchair boat geek knows, longer waterlines are faster. Right? And yet my boat has a nearly three feet shorter waterline, and was quicker. So what gives?</p>



<p>I am no expert, but there are two things at play here. First, the average human makes for a wimpy motor. There is just not that much power behind the oars. Second, the larger boats not only have more weight to move, but more importantly a good bit more wetted surface area. The more boat surface you have in the water, the more drag you will need to overcome at the oars. My boat weighs about half as much. And being small, it also forces me to take less stuff along, for more weight saving. I pack like I am backpacking. All of that means there is less drag inducing wetted surface area.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="616" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/two-sail-oar-boats-rowing.jpg" alt="Two double ended boats rowing in south Puget Sound." class="wp-image-2204" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/two-sail-oar-boats-rowing.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/two-sail-oar-boats-rowing-375x246.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/two-sail-oar-boats-rowing-768x503.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2204" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Picture by Bruce &#8211; Showing my boat low on her lines, with all the cruising gear, food and water aboard.</figcaption></figure>


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<figure class="alignright size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="500" height="723" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/otter-sailing.jpg" alt="Beautiful double ended Lug Yawl boat sailing." class="wp-image-2223" style="object-fit:cover" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/otter-sailing.jpg 500w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/otter-sailing-375x542.jpg 375w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px" data-mwl-img-id="2223" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Dan&#8217;s boat Otter</figcaption></figure>
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<p>Throw some Olympic class muscle behind their oars, in a short race, the story might be different. But when cruising over many miles, and applying the average amount of power at the oars, my boat moves about 3-4 mph compared to 2-3 mph of the larger craft. That might not seem like much difference, but in slow boats attempting to row 10-15 miles in a day, it can mean a few less hours at the oars. And when rowing along at the pace of my larger friends, it is fairly effortless.</p>



<p>I always seem to row over 50% of the miles on a cruise. And I like rowing, partly because my boat is easy to row, and I can actually cover some miles that way. So this is a very important consideration for me. </p>



<p>The larger boats are definitely designed to be better at the sailing side of the sail/oar equation. And they are. It was clear when the sails were up they are faster, and less athletic to sail as well, because of their greater stability and length. And on longer cruises, they would be much more comfortable.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Did I Come Back Itching To Own A Bigger Boat?</h2>



<p>No, not really. Or at least I successfully fought off the urge. Maybe. </p>



<p>It is not that I consider my boat the perfect sail/oar boat for me. That was never my goal. I just happened to own the boat, and was curious to see if I could turn it into a usable mini-cruiser. And I was sick of buying new boats. And it turns out to be pretty dang good.</p>



<p>Having gained some experience cruising it now, I find it a little too minimal. Over a number of days of cruising, my back starts to complain. And the sleeping is just a little too tight at my shoulders. And as mentioned, it is an athletic sailing craft because of how light and small it is.</p>



<p>After this trip I realized that much of my physical discomfort would more wisely be addressed with a regime of stretching and core strengthening in my daily life, instead of changing boats. </p>



<p>Nope, it is far from perfect, and I am sticking with it. In fact, after I finish my <a href="https://www.insidewaters.com/category/lavro-sea-dory-details/">Lavro Dory motorboat project</a>, hopefully this summer, the next boat I build will be an even lighter weight rowing boat that I can throw on top of a car, or on top of the Lavro. The Lavro will be my little water truck, taking me safely across big water like the strait between Port Townsend and the San Juan Islands. Then the Lavro becomes an anchored camping site, and I can spend my days exploring in the smaller rowboat. That rowboat will get far more use than a larger sail/oar boat would.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">But What Would Be My Perfect Sail/Oar Boat?</h2>


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<figure class="alignright size-full is-resized"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="500" height="694" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/row-bird-sailing-south-sound.jpg" alt="Small sailboat in south Puget Sound." class="wp-image-2254" style="width:500px" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/row-bird-sailing-south-sound.jpg 500w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/row-bird-sailing-south-sound-375x521.jpg 375w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px" data-mwl-img-id="2254" /></figure>
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<p>But half the fun of boating is thinking about what boat you might like instead. So, if I were looking for a different solo sail/oar boat, <strong>for the Puget Sound, the San Juan Islands and other protected areas (avoiding larger water crossings)</strong>, I would still opt for a smaller boat than my compatriots, for better rowing performance, and easier handling on shore. A true 50/50 boat, with equal balance of rowing and sailing.</p>



<p>I am not a big guy, at 5&#8242; 8&#8243;, 155 lbs, and that definitely comes into play on my boat choice. A sail/oar boat should fit your size and strength and agility.</p>



<p>I also keep in mind that with boats, a little bigger can actually be a lot bigger, in terms of overall material costs, weight, oar length, trailer size, storage space, and maintenance hours.</p>



<p>Windage is a factor that seems important in a human powered craft. While it is easy to say that I will just sail if it is windy, there are many circumstances where I have had to row in wind and waves. And as you can imagine, a larger boat presents a lot more windage. </p>



<p>In my experience sail sizes and spar size and weight are important on a sail/oar boat. I constantly take the rig down and put it back up, on the water. If rowing lots of miles, I definitely want my spars down. Even my single skinny carbon fiber mast reduces my rowing speed when it is up. So the sails and spars need to be very manageable, and they need a good place in the boat when rowing. </p>



<p>Sailing in dangerously cold waters, whatever boat I have must have a lot of reserve buoyancy chambers, and be easy to recover from a capsize.</p>



<p>I also like a boat I can push on and off a shore, and get on and off a trailer, without too much struggle. Numerous times I have launched at a shallow ramp that does not float my boat off the trailer, and I have to manhandle it off and back on.</p>



<p>Every bit of cruising gear must be secured or strapped down in case of capsize in a sail/oar boat, so there needs to be places and systems for that.</p>



<p>It has to have a quick to put up and take down tent to keep the weather out, and does not present a lot of windage at anchor. </p>



<p>It has to have have nice lines that I enjoy looking at.</p>



<p>Taking all of this into account, my current boat gets a lot of things right. It is really very very good. Honestly, the only things I would try to improve would be to have a bit more stability at rest and sailing, and a touch more comfortable sleeping and sitting positions. And I do covet the advantages of a lug/yawl rig.</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Possible Options</h3>



<p>So for going solo, something around 16 foot sounds about right, so long as it is designed with lots of rowing in mind. There are no current designs that have everything I like in a sail/oar boat. I would want to modify all of them. But contenders are <a href="https://www.oughtredboats.com/mainpages/doubleendedbeachboats.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Iain Oughtred&#8217;s Tirrik</a> at 16&#8242; 9&#8243;, <a href="https://www.oughtredboats.com/mainpages/dinghies.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Iain&#8217;s 15&#8242; Tammie Norrie</a>,  <a href="http://www.jwboatdesigns.co.nz/plans/walkabout/index.htm" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">John Welsford&#8217;s Walkabout</a> at 16&#8242; 2&#8243;,  <a href="http://www.jwboatdesigns.co.nz/plans/sei/index.htm" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">John&#8217;s SEI</a> at 14&#8242; 8&#8243;&#8216;, Eric Hvalsoe&#8217;s HV16, maybe <a href="https://www.chase-small-craft.com/ciy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Clint Chase&#8217;s 16&#8242; Calendar Islands Yawl</a>, or a Mantinicus 16&#8242; peapod, although it is rumored to be pretty tender. Another strong option recommended to me by Ben Fuller is the Antonio Dias designed <a href="https://antonio-dias.com/portfolio/harrier/">Harrier dinghy</a>. The Harrier is 17&#8242;, and just under 5&#8242; in beam, with a flat bottom panel. The boat is definitely rowing focused, and is fast under sail. Unfortunately I am not terrible fond of her shear line looks. </p>



<p>Iain&#8217;s Tirrik might win purely because I think it is the most beautiful, even if the Tirrik is a bit longer and heavier than I have in mind. John&#8217;s Walkabout is the closest to what I like in features. It is a great boat. But there are a few things about the boat I would want to change, to suit what I like, and to make it a little lighter weight. John&#8217;s SEI on the surface appears very similar to my Skerry, but it has more beam, a fuller stern, and a good bit more stability, allowing a touch more sail area. He said it would be &#8220;a little more sticky to row&#8221; compared to mine, but much more stable. Strong contender, that one, although I would want to modify it in a similar way to mine for cruising.</p>



<p>If I wanted a boat very similar to mine, with a few minor improvements on the sailing side of things, I would go with a <a href="https://duckworks.com/phoenix-iii/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ross Lillistone&#8217;s Phoenix III</a>. Remember this is for cruising in fairly protected waters. The length and freeboard are the same as mine. And it is well setup for rowing with one person. It has a little more beam, and fuller stern sections with a transom. That, combined with a very fine entry, makes it a bit better sailing, both upwind and downwind. It is still fairly lightweight, at about 160lbs, and is reported to be easy to recover from a capsize. Lots of people have successfully camp cruised on these boats. Below is an example of one at a recent wooden boat festival in Port Townsend.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="420" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/phoenix-iii-sail-oar-boat.jpg" alt="Phoenix III boat." class="wp-image-2264" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/phoenix-iii-sail-oar-boat.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/phoenix-iii-sail-oar-boat-375x168.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/phoenix-iii-sail-oar-boat-768x343.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2264" /></figure>



<p><strong>But</strong> I recently sailed and rowed one. And my initial thoughts about how the fuller stern and transom would greatly improve the initial stability, as compared to my boat, did not pan out. It is still a very tender boat. Sitting on a side bench, when not sailing, heels the boat over an uncomfortable amount. And the layout in my boat is better for how I like to use it. It is also a fairly complex build. Ross has partnered with Duck Flat Wooden Boats on a new version of the boat, called the <a href="https://duckflatwoodenboats.com/phoenix-15-kit-build/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow">Phoenix 15</a>, that is easier to build, with a flat plywood bottom. It is nearly identical otherwise, with just a touch more beam and length. If I did not have my boat, and wanted a very minimal cruiser, I would start with that design, but make an interior similar to my boat, with an off-center daggerboard.</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading">My Choice</h3>



<p>If I had to chose and existing design that fits my desires, <strong>John&#8217;s Walkabout seems best.</strong>  I have first hand experience with how stable it is compared to mine. Although I would talk with John about making some changes. For how I camp I would prefer to open up some of the forward area of the side benches, <a href="https://www.insidewaters.com/skerry-gear-organizing-divider-mod/">like I have in my boat</a>, for easier storage of larger items like drybags, soft coolers, anchor stuff, and water containers, that can all be strapped down. But that might require a slight reworking of the end tank volume, to make sure the boat can still recover from a capsize.</p>



<p>Although, I have come to value a transom, having lived with a small double ender for awhile now. It would be nice to able to occasionally use one of the new electric outboards. It would open up some cruising options. And transoms give better access to the rudder, and a good strong place to mount a mizzen. </p>



<p>So my ideal sail/oar boat might be sort of a mixup between a Phoenix 15 and a Walkabout, with some of the interior from my boat, a lug/yawl rig, and maybe a water ballast tank for more stability under sail and relaxing at anchor. I have started drawing up some of those ideas. Who knows, maybe I will someday build it.</p>



<p>That is just me though. Boats are highly personal, and addictively interesting. They contain multitudes. With more experience and an older body, my desires are likely to change.</p>



<p>And it seems to me that more important than trying to get the perfect boat, is to use the one you have a lot, learn its strengths and weaknesses and become skilled at teasing the best performance out of her. My little boat always seems to get me to where I want to go, often ahead of larger craft.</p>



<p>What can you take from all of this, to help your own sail/oar decision? Probably not much, other than to ignore advice that does not take into account how you will dominantly use the boat, where you will use it, how long you will be cruising for, your size, strength and skill level, your adventure seeking to stress endurance quotient, how many miles you want to cover in a day, and how much rowing vs. sailing you will be doing. And then ignore that advice also. Figure out what works for you, through experience.</p>



<p>No matter what sail/oar boat you have, they all are really fun for exploring, like Bruce is below, checking out a shallow bay on the west side of Hartsine Island. I am just about my happiest in my little boat, sometimes with a camera in hand.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="631" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/row-bird-exploring-inlet.jpg" alt="Rowboat exploring a bay off Harstine Island, WA." class="wp-image-2219" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/row-bird-exploring-inlet.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/row-bird-exploring-inlet-375x252.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/row-bird-exploring-inlet-768x516.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2219" /></figure>



<p>P.S. You will often see us without life vests in the pictures above. That was only in calm conditions, when rowing, in hot weather, with virtually no chance of capsize. When sailing, we were all wearing them. Well, two thirds of us at least. Probably best not to follow our example. I did recently get a new life vest that is better for rowing that you can read about <a href="https://www.insidewaters.com/best-life-jacket-for-rowing/" data-type="post" data-id="2371">here</a>.</p>



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<p>The Lavro Dory came from the factory with some slightly odd looking chine/rail extensions in the stern. They are attached with bolts, and are made from wood. Bartender boats have something similar, but their&#8217;s are more elegant, and run from the bow, angling down almost to the stern.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-large"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="492" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-featured-940x492.jpg" alt="Lavro Dory on trailer." class="wp-image-1877" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-featured-940x492.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-featured-375x196.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-featured-500x262.jpg 500w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-featured-768x402.jpg 768w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-featured.jpg 1200w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="1877" /></figure>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">What Are They For?</h2>



<p>Many people think they provide extra planing surface. Or that they are just spray rails. And they do a little of both. But from what I have read, the reason for them is because double ended boats do weird things when you make them into fast planing boats.</p>



<p>When George Calkins, of Bartender boats fame, was first figuring out his hulls, he discovered the boats would make some rather violent and sudden turns, almost tossing passengers out of the boat. They also would turn in other unpredictable ways, particularly when there were weight shifts side to side in the boat.</p>



<p>That led to the development of the chine/spray rails you see on Bartender boats, that stick out at the stern. In the picture below of a small Bartender, the rails start up high on the bow, and swoop down to the hull bottom. The primary purpose of the chine/rails is to provide some clean edges for more predictable turning at speed. They stabilize the boat. The folks at Lavro Dory discovered the same problems in their testing, and added their version to make the boat work.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-large"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="219" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/bartender-chines-940x219.jpg" alt="Bartender drawing showing lifting rails." class="wp-image-2164" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/bartender-chines-940x219.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/bartender-chines-375x87.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/bartender-chines-768x179.jpg 768w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/bartender-chines.jpg 1000w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2164" /></figure>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">What Is My Problem With Them?</h2>



<p>There has always been something about the Lavro rails that look wrong to my untrained eye. They are rather short and are at a steep angle, and don&#8217;t have very sharp edges on the bottom side, which is important for cutting clean turns. And as you can imagine, the angle increases when you are trying to get up on plane, as the bow raises and the stern squats. At that angle the current chine/rails seem like big inefficient water plows to me.</p>



<p>I suspect the company was using that high angle to try and solve another issue of squatting, by forcing the bow down. The Lavro Dory has an open motor tunnel, which decreases the planing surface in the stern, compared to a Bartender, which likely contributes to the squatting.</p>



<p>I could not stop thinking that there is a better solution. My attitude towards them is not particularly fair. All of the owners I have talked to say the boat works. But since I am going to refurbish the entire boat, I felt I could come up with a solution that would allow the boat to get up on plane easier and earlier, and use less horsepower. Weight placement in the boat will be part of the solution.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Professional Help</h2>



<p>While trying to understand this odd boat I talked to experienced boat designers, particularly folks with experience with Bartender boats. Local small boat designer Carl Chamberlin came by and looked at the boat, which I was very grateful for. He did some plans work for George Calkins on some of his Bartender boats. He actually thought I should just use them as is, and gave me lots to think about.</p>



<p>And <a href="https://www.tadroberts.ca/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Tad Roberts</a>, the esteemed boat designer from British Columbia, also responded to my concerns about these chine/rails with a quick paragraph of suggestions that were pure gold. I also talked to the current owner of <a href="https://bartenderboats.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Bartender boat plans</a> (also George). He looked at pictures of my boat, and we talked about what I was considering, based in part on Tad&#8217;s suggestions, he agreed it sounded like a good idea. I would have talked to the original manufacturer of the Lavro boat but could not find their contact information. The company has been out of business for years. </p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">The Problems As I See Them</h2>



<p>Talking to lots of owners of these boats, there are a few repeated issues with the boat.</p>



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<li>The boat is a bit hard to get up on plane, requiring a lot of power and speed, and you have to have weight up in the bow. To me that hints that the boat is too heavy for its planing surface area, particularly in the stern. The normal response is to try and add more horsepower, but that is a downward spiral of additional weight in the wrong spot.</li>



<li>The boat tends to ride with a high bow, squatting in the rear. Again, maybe the boat does not have enough planing surface in the stern, and a weight imbalance issue?</li>



<li>Nearly all owners complain the boat is rather tender (tippy). This is due to a narrow waterline and the double ended hull. Coming from sailing, a bit of tenderness does not bother me. And there is so much hull flair all around that it picks up a huge amount of stability when it heels a bit. But some improvement in its initial stability would probably be welcome, for comfort when at rest.</li>



<li>The boat tends to steer itself around when weight shifts side to side. It is a quirk of a double-ender, and may also suffer from a bit of bow steering.</li>
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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">The Big Change</h2>



<p>So here is what I am going to do. I have already removed the existing wood rails (<a href="https://www.insidewaters.com/lavro-dory-deconstruction-continues/" data-type="post" data-id="2137">read here</a>). In their place I will be extending the existing chine flats on the bottom of the hull. These extensions will start all the way up at the bow, taper out to about 3&#8243; wide mid ship, and end up being 14&#8243; wide in the stern. This will effectively turn the bottom of the boat into something more like a standard planning hull.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-large"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="368" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-chine-flat-extensions-940x368.jpg" alt="Drawing of planned chine extensions on the Lavro Dory." class="wp-image-2162" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-chine-flat-extensions-940x368.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-chine-flat-extensions-375x147.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-chine-flat-extensions-768x301.jpg 768w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-chine-flat-extensions.jpg 1200w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2162" /></figure>



<p>Besides increasing the planing surface area, particularly in the stern, I think it will help stabilize the boat, giving it wide sharp edges for controlled turns. And it should make the boat less tender overall. Hopefully it will get the boat up on plane earlier, and with less power. And I believe it will keep the boat on plane with a lower angle of attack, further decreasing how much horsepower is required.</p>



<p>I am also going to be closing in a bit of the motor well tunnel, adding a little more planing surface. And if it seems necessary after testing I may add a plug behind the motor, for more planing surface, like many Bartenders boats use.</p>



<p>Combined with all of this I will be adjusting the weight placement of some heavy items. The helm station and main passenger seat are moving forward a couple of feet. The fuel tank will be right in the center below the passenger seat, with room under the helm seat for extra fuel for longer trips. That way as the fuel volume/weight changes the fore/aft trim does not change. The battery will also be central. Other heavy items can be moved around the boat to balance things out as needed, like fresh water jugs, anchors, coolers, etc.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">What Are My Concerns?</h2>



<p>I don&#8217;t have any concerns about building the extensions. But I am so far from an expert in hull dynamics that even attempting this is hubris. The design and function are a huge experiment, with a decent chance of it not working like I think, or it causing other problems. But I am fine with having to rework them if necessary. It is a fun project to learn from.</p>



<p>One unaddressed concern I have is regarding the steering issues on a double-ended planing hull. There is a train of thought that it is the water wrapping around the rounded stern that causes most of the steerage issues. And it has been suggested that interrupting the flow of that water around the stern is necessary. If you think about leaning a kayak on its edge to turn it, it is not hard to imagine why this boat turns when it leans over.</p>



<p>Some early power dories used to attach nearly vertical batons to the hull at the stern to break up the water flow to help these issues. My new chine extensions will not interrupt that water flow around the stern when at slower speeds, and the current chine/rails do. Then again, the chine/rails on Bartenders boats don&#8217;t really break up that flow either at slower speeds. I guess we will see.</p>



<p>Other concerns are that these boats like to bow steer a bit, in following seas. That may be due to a combination of what is mentioned above, and because the boat has a fairly sharp v-bow, and the lowest point of the boat is up in the bow. So I wonder if I am successful at lowering the planing angle if I will also be increase bow steering? Maybe the hull is designed to ride bow high, like a semi-displacement lobster boat? If that happens, I may be able add some vertical rails under the hull in the stern, for better directional stability.</p>



<p>These hull extensions may also not be great if the boat is broached in big waves, or even a big following wave. The chines might give a wave good purchase. If I intended to cross river bars regularly, heading out to the open ocean to fish, I don&#8217;t think I would add these chine extensions, or least I would not run them all the way to the stern. But that is not my kind of boating. In fact, if I never have to cross a river bar again, I will be happy. They freak me out.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">How Will They Be Built?</h2>



<p>These chine extensions will be made from a fairly high density foam core, with fiberglass skins. A local friend sold me a couple 1&#8243; sheets of a structural foam made from recycled PET plastics, that he uses in boat construction. It is nice and dense, although not as lightweight as some other much more expensive foam cores.</p>



<p>I took some ideas for their shape and construction from an article that Eric Sponberg shared about adding some lifting spray rails to a big powerboat. You can read that PDF <a href="https://www.ericwsponberg.com/wp-content/uploads/case-studies-in-redesign.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>. Of course the scantlings for those rails are massive compared to what I need, but it was a helpful article nonetheless.</p>



<p>I will shape the chines in foam, and then add about 30 ounces of fiberglass around it, blending it into the hull sides and bottom, using West System epoxy.</p>



<p>In order to get a good bond to the boat I first have to remove a thick layer of gel coat on the hull. Not a fun project, particularly on the underside. In fact, I expect it to be the worst part of this entire project.</p>



<p>After the hull work is done the boat will be painted. I am not messing around with trying to cover it in gel coat again.</p>



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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2023 23:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>One of the big concerns I have had with this Lavro Dory project is that there is foam below the floor, but the hull has no drain plugs. This seemed really stupid to me, given that the manufacturer, and owners after, had drilled holes in the floor to attach hardware, and water has certainly gotten below.</p>



<p>Not knowing exactly how it was constructed, or what foam was used, I thought that there was potentially a lot of water weight below the deck. Other owners have reported a rather wide range of top speeds, with the same horsepower motors. And I feared that the reason for that may be lots of weight in water saturated foam below the floor. I thought it was certainly possible that I might have to remove the entire floor and the foam below, if I found wet foam.</p>



<p>What to do? I considered lots of options, the simplest being installing a drain plug in the stern. But normally water saturated foam will not drain, so this would likely do little good. And the lowest point in the boat is actually up in the bow, and I was not keen on installing a drain through the hull up in the bow.</p>


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<figure class="alignright size-full is-resized"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="500" height="670" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-dory-foam-core.jpg" alt="" class="wp-image-2157" style="width:500px" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-dory-foam-core.jpg 500w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-dory-foam-core-375x503.jpg 375w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px" data-mwl-img-id="2157" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Divinycell Foam Core</figcaption></figure>
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<p>So I decided to cut a 6&#8243; diameter access hole in the floor, directly over the lowest point in the bow. I wanted to see what the foam was like, and if it was wet. I could either re-cap it later, or install an inspection hatch for the future.</p>



<p>Well, after cutting it out, I discovered that it had a very well bonded structural foam core below. It was really hard stuff. And when I plopped it into a bowl of water, it did not absorb any. I even drilled a hole in the top of the plug and left it full of water overnight. And the water level was only slightly lower in the morning. So the good news was this foam was not damaged by water, nor does it hold much water.</p>



<p>After some internet sleuthing, and asking boat builders, it appears the foam is Divinycell H. That is good news. It is a very good core that in fact will hold very little water. </p>



<p>So it appears this boat is made with a structural foam core, bonded to the bottom and the floor, with no stringers. And that is really a good thing, because it is a lightweight way to build, and it provides enough positive buoyancy that the boat will not sink. And I don&#8217;t have to tear it all out.</p>



<p>Next I drilled a hole down through the foam core, down to the fiberglass in the bottom of the hull. I then stuffed a towel down into the hole. And sure enough, within a few hours the towel was wet, having wicked water up it. So although the foam is not damaged by water, it is certainly holding a bit of water. And it does seem to have moved to the low point in the boat, because a similar wicking test of another hole where a seat was mounted yielded no water. </p>



<p>It probably is not a lot of weight in water, but it would still be nice to dry it out. Having talked about this problem with some composite construction experts, it is not easy to remove. It likely will not drain out by itself, because of all the surface tension in the tiny spaces that it resides.</p>



<p>I considered setting up a vacuum system to pull the moisture out. But it was explained to me that in order for this to work, I would need to create a very high level of vacuum, so that the water would essentially boil, allowing it to be sucked out as vapor. That high of a vacuum made me nervous about the structure of the boat being damaged. Plus it would cost a bunch of money to get the equipment to achieve it.</p>



<p>Ultimately I decided that continuing to wick water from the core with a towel would do a good enough job. There was a bit of fiberglass damage from beaching at the lowest point of the boat in the bow. It already needed some fiberglass repair. So I drilled a hole from that spot outside the boat up into the foam core, and over many months wicked what seems like all the remaining water out of the core with towels. The floor will have no holes in it when I am done, and all future hardware connections will be epoxied on.</p>



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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2023 23:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>Well, I am back to work on my <a href="https://www.insidewaters.com/category/lavro-sea-dory-details/">Lavro Dory project</a>.</p>



<p>First I moved the boat into my smaller workspace, which is heatable for winter work. I needed it off the trailer, because of work I need to do on the full length of the hull bottom. I wrapped a tow strap around the stern, and slowly pulled the trailer out from under the boat, adding in boat stands at four points during the process. I thought this was going to be a nerve-racking process, but it was actually easy and fairly low stress.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="785" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-stern-shop.jpg" alt="Lavro Sea Dory on trailer in shop." class="wp-image-2138" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-stern-shop.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-stern-shop-375x313.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-stern-shop-768x641.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2138" /></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="497" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-stern-strap.jpg" alt="Strap connected to stern to pull dory off trailer." class="wp-image-2139" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-stern-strap.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-stern-strap-375x198.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-stern-strap-768x406.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2139" /></figure>



<p>The boat will stay up high on the stands for all the hull work. Then I will lower it onto some floor dollies, to complete the work inside. After the cabin is built the boat will not fit out the door on its trailer, so it will have to be hauled outside on the dollies, before going back on the trailer.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="584" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-stands.jpg" alt="Dory on stands, showing chine flats." class="wp-image-2140" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-stands.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-stands-375x233.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-stands-768x477.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2140" /></figure>



<p>Currently I am still in deconstruction mode, cutting out every bit of weight and non-essential structure in the boat. Previously I had removed the v-berth to get at the old fuel tank. There was also a number of small water diverting ribs on the floor that were going to be in the way with the new cabin layout, as well as some supports for the old helm station. All of these were made from plywood ribs covered in fiberglass. Those all were cut out. The bow tow ring was also removed. The bolts were so corroded that they had to be broken off, and would not have lasted for one good tug on them. It&#8217;s good to go through every item on a 43 year old boat.</p>


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<figure class="alignright size-full is-resized"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="500" height="357" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-outrigger-pads1.jpg" alt="Outrigger pads cut off." class="wp-image-2144" style="width:500px" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-outrigger-pads1.jpg 500w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-outrigger-pads1-375x268.jpg 375w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px" data-mwl-img-id="2144" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Outrigger mounts removed</figcaption></figure>
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<p>There were also two heavy duty pads on the stern rails for mounting fishing outriggers, that you can see in the picture above with the strap. This will be a photography/mothership work boat, not a fishing craft, so these also needed to be cut off. I carefully used a sawzall and discovered they had a core of what appears to be cedar, with about a quarter inch of glass around them.</p>



<p>In the stern, to each side of the motor well, are two sealed buoyancy chambers. And in front of those were some curved seats that I cut away. They were designed to have portable fuel tanks below them, or a battery. And I also think they were designed to keep people from sitting too far back in the boat, for better weight balance. They limit the cockpit space too much with my new layout.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="628" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-seats-cutout.jpg" alt="Lavro dory seat next to motor." class="wp-image-2142" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-seats-cutout.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-seats-cutout-375x251.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-seats-cutout-768x513.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2142" /></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="566" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-seats-cutout-2.jpg" alt="Seat cut away." class="wp-image-2141" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-seats-cutout-2.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-seats-cutout-2-375x226.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-seats-cutout-2-768x462.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2141" /></figure>



<p>I will also be removing the bulkheads, and moving them forward, adding structure between the motor mount and the hull sides, while increasing the size of the buoyancy chambers. I plan to build some truly watertight hatches on the tops of those chambers for storage access. On one side will be stored my old 2hp 2-stroke, twenty pound Suzuki outboard, for emergency power. I will be able to run it right behind the current motor, in the well. The chamber on the other side will be a good spot to store big fenders.</p>



<p>Finally, I removed the wood rails on the stern. You can read the full details about what these rails are for, why I removed them, and what will replace them, <a href="https://www.insidewaters.com/lavro-dory-stern-chine-replacement/" data-type="post" data-id="2161">on this page</a>. The rails were held on by three big stainless bolts, screwed into about 1&#8243; of solid glass. The wood was very dense and heavy.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="460" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-rails.jpg" alt="Lavro Dory wood stern chines." class="wp-image-2147" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-rails.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-rails-375x184.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-rails-768x376.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2147" /></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="611" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-rails-removed.jpg" alt="Stern chines removed." class="wp-image-2148" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-rails-removed.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-rails-removed-375x244.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-rails-removed-768x499.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2148" /></figure>



<p>I also used a razor blade to remove all the lettering and numbers on the boat. The lettering was in vinyl stickers. But I discovered that someone had done a wonderful job of hand painting the grey shadowing around the letters and even the bow numbers. The boat hull is going to be painted, so all the lettering has to go. Besides, by the time I am done with this boat, it will be modified so much that it will not be fair to call it a Lavro Sea Dory anymore.</p>



<p>Between all the unused metal hardware and unnecessary fiberglass structures, a bunch of weight has been stripped from the boat, which should help this narrow waterline boat. Soon I will get to start building, and I will be keeping a keen eye on added weight.</p>



<p>This project is a bit crazy. There are simpler ways to go boating for sure. But I do enjoy the process, of thinking through a boat, and trying to improve it, and make it just right for my personal needs. And it is also kind of cool to give a 43 year old boat a second life. Instead of it hitting the dump, I expect to personally use this boat for another 20 years. </p>



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<p>I recently purchased a Portage Pram from a friend. I had planned on building a similar pram as a shore boat for our <a href="https://www.insidewaters.com/category/lavro-sea-dory-details/" data-type="category" data-id="10">Lavro Dory</a>, so this saved a bunch of work, and building Portage Pram oars was a very enjoyable project.</p>



<p>The Portage Pram was originally designed by William (Bill) Peterson back in the 1970s, and proved to be a great little tender. This more recent version is available as <a href="https://duckworks.com/portage-pram-plans-rowing-version/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">plans</a> or a <a href="https://duckworks.com/portage-pram-cnc-cut-plywood-kit/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">pre-cut CNC kit</a> from Duckworks.com. It&#8217;s 6&#8242; 8&#8243;, with a 42&#8243; beam, and it weighs a remarkably lightweight 35 pounds.</p>



<p>And that is exactly what we wanted for our dory, a very lightweight shore boat that was super easy to bring aboard when we are traveling at higher speeds. The initial plan is to invert the dinghy, and store it over the motor in the Lavro Dory.</p>



<p>Nicole and I had a very similar pram 25 years ago that we used with the little trimaran I built that we cruised up inside B.C., and we loved it. The Portage Pram is a good rower, and has plenty of freeboard with two of us, and is fairly stable. Although, it is so lightweight that with two people you have to carefully shift your weight toward the center as the second person enters or exits. This boat should hold us, a bit of groceries, and our small dog just fine.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Searching For Decent Oars</h2>



<p>The boat did not come with oars. After asking around locally to see if anyone had a decent pair I could buy, and finding nothing suitable, I decided to build my own Portage Pram oars. This was the first time I had made a set of oars, although I have built a couple of kayak paddles in the past.</p>



<p>The truth is I am spoiled for good oars, and can&#8217;t stand to use the typical store-bought, overweight, unbalanced clubs, even on a little pram such as this. My friend Bruce calls those OSOs &#8211; oar shaped objects. If you have never used a good pair of lightweight, balanced oars, I recommend you do not. Because afterward, you will not be content with anything else, and they are not easy or cheap to come by. Seriously though, it makes a huge difference.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Oar Design Theft</h2>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="238" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/galen-pram-oar-plan.jpg" alt="Portage Pram oar plan" class="wp-image-2025" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/galen-pram-oar-plan.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/galen-pram-oar-plan-375x95.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/galen-pram-oar-plan-768x194.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2025" /></figure>



<p>I started by testing a variety of oar lengths, loaned by friends, and talked with other Portage Pram owners about their preferences. I sketched a few on paper, then drew up the plan on the computer. What I came up with is 90% inspired/stolen from other designers and traditions, but my oars have a hint of originality because they are such a mish-mash of types.</p>



<p>I have had a long interest and appreciation for Adirondack Guideboats, <a href="https://www.adkwoodenboats.com/new-adirondack-wooden-guide-boat" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">like these made by my friends Rob &amp; Allison</a>. These very narrow beam, lightweight rowboats developed a rather unique oar. Traditionally made of cherry wood, they have a large boxy inboard shape for counter balance, but the loom tapers down into a very slender connection to the blade, which provides a surprising amount of flex and snap. They are slightly unusual in the USA for using pinned oarlocks, so you cannot feather them. They tend to use a big overlap at the handles, allowing up to an 8 foot oar on a boat as slender as 38 inch beam.</p>



<p>So I drew heavily from this tradition, with slender looms, a counter balancing boxy top end, and pinned locks, although I did not use an overlap at the handles. I love the idea of pinned locks for some boats. No more prying at the rusty lid of the tallow can, only to find it dried out, using it anyway, and having unsightly white paste on the leathers. And no more buttons that wear out, nor heavy bronze oarlocks sliding down the loom and beating up the blade top.</p>



<p>There are downsides to this style of pinned oar, but guideboaters swear by them, and have done very well with them in some pretty yucky ocean conditions in the <a href="https://raceroster.com/events/2021/48911/blackburn-challenge-2021" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Blackburn Challenge</a>, a 20 mile open water circumnavigation of Cape Ann.</p>


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<figure class="alignright size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="800" height="1154" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/portage-pram-oars-inside-sm.jpg" alt="6' 9&quot; oars fit perfect" class="wp-image-2030" style="width:425px" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/portage-pram-oars-inside-sm.jpg 800w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/portage-pram-oars-inside-sm-375x541.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/portage-pram-oars-inside-sm-768x1108.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px" data-mwl-img-id="2030" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">6&#8242; 9&#8243; oars fit perfectly </figcaption></figure>
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<p>If my oars are 60% guideboat, where they diverge would give traditional guideboat builders fits. Another 20% of the design can be credited to <a href="https://timelessboatworks.com/oarsandpaddles/petecullerstyleoars" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pete Culler</a>, with the boxy top ends for counter balance, and rounded the length of the loom. And instead of very expensive bronze guideboat hardware, I used cheap stainless steel oarlocks. It is just a pram.</p>



<p>The next 10% of inspiration comes from having used <a href="https://www.shawandtenney.com/productdisplay/wide-blade-spoons" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Shaw &amp; Tenney</a> spoon blade oars, the spruce Qualicum Harbor (that unfortunately appear to be out of business) oars on my Skerry and the beautiful oars Tom at <a href="http://www.grapeviewpointboatworks.com/oars.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Grapeview Boats</a>. Guideboats never seem to use spoons. There are claims of 20% more efficiency with a spoon, which I highly doubt, unless the competition is using a fork. Mostly I like the looks of them, and did not find them that difficult to build.</p>



<p>The last 10% of the design is all me. I drew all the lines, and made a few modern additions.</p>



<p>There is a very lightweight layer of 1.5 ounce fiberglass on the inside of the blades, because the outer edges are very thin cedar, and I did not want them cracking. There is also a thickened epoxy tip, to help protect the end grain. And the hole for the oarlock pin has been oversized, filled with a high density epoxy, and redrilled,  to prevent water ingress and reduce wear and potential splitting.</p>



<p>Oh, and then I painted them with some leftover exterior latex paint from my shop doors. I have a theory that bland looking painted oars have less chance of being stolen at a dock, compared to beautiful brightworked wood. Plus these had a variety of blemishes that would have bothered me to see brightworked. I quite enjoy their practical no-nonsense looks.</p>



<p>They work great, with nice flex in the blades, and decent balance. And they fit in the boat on a diagonal.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Wood From A Sixty Year Old Family Sail Boat From The UK</h2>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="571" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/sea-saunterer.jpg" alt="Family boat that wood from the mast came from" class="wp-image-2085" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/sea-saunterer.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/sea-saunterer-375x228.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/sea-saunterer-768x467.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2085" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">The 1963 Alan Buchanan Sloop Sea Saunterer</figcaption></figure>


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<figure class="alignright size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="375" height="653" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/old-sailboat-wood-mast-split-open.jpg" alt="Mast split open" class="wp-image-2028" data-mwl-img-id="2028"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">The old mast, split open</figcaption></figure>
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<p>Maybe the most interesting thing about these oars is the wood they are mostly made from. Living in Port Townsend I figured I could run down to Edensaw and pick up some nice cherry or spruce, air dried or kiln. Nope, nada, nothing even on order. For awhile though I have had in my garage the mast that came off my father-in-law&#8217;s old sailboat, and I decided to use some of it. It was thought the mast was spruce, but it is too heavy for that, and is likely fir.</p>



<p>The 33&#8242; Alan Buchanan designed sloop was built in the UK in 1963, made its way across the Atlantic, through the ditch to the Pacific. My wife&#8217;s folks cruised it a bunch locally, up to Alaska, and around Vancouver Island. Currently she is a sad sight in their back yard, planks rotting off, only the ribs left for a poor hungry boat school student to chew on.</p>



<p>The mast had been constructed in two parts, hollowed out to cut weight and to run wiring within. The glue joint had failed when I received it, so it was already split up the middle. Unfortunately none of it was 2&#8243; thick, which I needed. So I had to cut away some of the inner edges and then laminate two pieces together. And from that I was able to cut two sticks out. </p>



<p>The wood is really nice, with tight grain and no knots. Unfortunately, when I laminated the pieces together, I must have flipped one, because the grain on each side ran the opposite direction, which made carving them down challenging.</p>



<p>I decided to use some cedar I had for the full width of the blades, to keep the weight down.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Build Steps</h2>


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<figure class="alignleft size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="700" height="818" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pram-oars-wood-pre-lamination.jpg" alt="Two boards made from the wood mast" class="wp-image-2024" style="width:450px" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pram-oars-wood-pre-lamination.jpg 700w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pram-oars-wood-pre-lamination-375x438.jpg 375w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px" data-mwl-img-id="2024" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Finding some boards in the mast</figcaption></figure>
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<figure class="alignright size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="500" height="770" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pram-oars-wood-laminated.jpg" alt="Laminated boards" class="wp-image-2041" style="width:450px" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pram-oars-wood-laminated.jpg 500w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pram-oars-wood-laminated-375x578.jpg 375w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px" data-mwl-img-id="2041" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Laminating to get enough thickness</figcaption></figure>
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<figure class="alignleft size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="700" height="942" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pram-oars-sticks.jpg" alt="2&quot; x 2&quot; sticks of wood for oars" class="wp-image-2040" style="width:450px" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pram-oars-sticks.jpg 700w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pram-oars-sticks-375x505.jpg 375w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px" data-mwl-img-id="2040" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Lots of work for a couple of sticks</figcaption></figure>
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<figure class="alignright size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="700" height="820" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pram-oars-cedar-laminated.jpg" alt="Cedar laminated to sticks" class="wp-image-2032" style="width:450px" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pram-oars-cedar-laminated.jpg 700w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pram-oars-cedar-laminated-375x439.jpg 375w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px" data-mwl-img-id="2032" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Cedar added to achieve the full blade width</figcaption></figure>
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<figure class="wp-block-image size-full is-resized"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="724" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/parm-oars-spoons-cut.jpg" alt="Spoon blade shape cut out with bandsaw" class="wp-image-2029" style="width:800px" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/parm-oars-spoons-cut.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/parm-oars-spoons-cut-375x289.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/parm-oars-spoons-cut-768x592.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="2029" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Spoon blade shape cut out on the bandsaw</figcaption></figure>



<p>After roughing out the shape on the bandsaw the rest was done by hand with a drawknife, spokeshave, and sander, over a few days.</p>


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<figure class="alignleft size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="700" height="876" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pram-oars-carving-tools.jpg" alt="Finishing the oar shape with hand tools" class="wp-image-2031" style="width:500px" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pram-oars-carving-tools.jpg 700w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pram-oars-carving-tools-375x469.jpg 375w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px" data-mwl-img-id="2031" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Buckets of shavings</figcaption></figure>
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<figure class="alignright size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="500" height="1016" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pram-oars-initial-carving.jpg" alt="Cutting away wood on oars" class="wp-image-2036" style="width:400px" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pram-oars-initial-carving.jpg 500w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pram-oars-initial-carving-375x762.jpg 375w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px" data-mwl-img-id="2036" /></figure>
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<figure class="aligncenter size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="800" height="807" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pram-oar-blades.jpg" alt="Nearly finished oars" class="wp-image-2048" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pram-oar-blades.jpg 800w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pram-oar-blades-375x378.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pram-oar-blades-768x775.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px" data-mwl-img-id="2048" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Shapely, with a thickened epoxy tip</figcaption></figure>
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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Oar Realization</h2>



<p>My subconscious spit out a little nugget of insight when I was making these oars. As the wood shavings flew, hour after hour, I wondered why I seem to enjoy these projects more and more, that take so much work, like the rebuild of my <a href="https://www.insidewaters.com/modifying-a-clc-skerry-for-overnight-cruising/" data-type="post" data-id="1199">Skerry</a>. It is certainly not from some great work ethic, nor do I really identify as a boat builder. Sure, I love boats, and enjoying getting out into nature on them. But those thoughts did not satisfy the persistent question; why do I enjoy this so much?</p>



<p>Well, an answer popped out. And it makes sense. In life, there are a hell of a lot of things that you just have to swallow, that you realistically have no control over, but that drive you nuts or make you feel powerless. A central point of pain for me is humanity&#8217;s destruction of this beautiful world. Huge gas guzzling vehicles and massive homes, endless piles of plastic trash, and electronics that only last a few years. And there are many other things that are endured. It is of course insane to believe you can make everything in the world as you would have it. But still, just under the surface, there is this quiet pool of rage for all that is so clearly not right.</p>



<p>But you know what? I can make a pair of oars that is perfectly fit for their job, are exactly the right length for their boat, balanced for the weight of my arm, fit for my hand, are fairly respectful of the environment, and even honor a bit of family boating tradition.</p>



<p>It is something I can do, that addresses a problem, with a good answer. A little pocket of sanity and power returned. They are not perfect, nor was I shooting for that. But dipping them into the water, over and over, a heartbeat so fitting in place and body that it nearly disappears from notice; that soothes a little bit of my ragged soul. And that is why I enjoy these projects so much.</p>



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<p>A bunch of us small boaters got together for the annual Pocket Yacht Palooza in Port Townsend. And then about a third as many went on a short cruise together for a few days.</p>



<p>I showed my modified <a href="https://www.insidewaters.com/modifying-a-clc-skerry-for-overnight-cruising/" data-type="post" data-id="1199">CLC Skerry</a>. The paint was just barely dry from some <a href="https://www.insidewaters.com/skerry-gear-organizing-divider-mod/" data-type="post" data-id="1868">additional modifications</a> I had completed a week before, to better contain my gear bags and anchor systems.</p>


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<figure class="alignright size-full is-resized"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="500" height="315" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-palooza-2022-6.jpg" alt="" class="wp-image-1934" style="width:375px" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-palooza-2022-6.jpg 500w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-palooza-2022-6-375x236.jpg 375w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px" data-mwl-img-id="1934" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Portage Pram I Purchased at the Show</figcaption></figure>
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<p>It was an excellent show. Not as big as in its pre-covid heyday, but larger than last year, with a wide range of boat types and sizes to check out, and many enjoyable conversations were had with very experienced small boaters. It was also better attended by the public this year, thanks to the efforts of Lee Bjorklund getting the word out. Thanks Lee for organizing these events this year!</p>



<p>I actually bought a little <a href="https://duckworks.com/portage-pram/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Portage Pram</a> from Lee at the show. I was planning on building something similar as a tender for our <a href="https://www.insidewaters.com/lavro-sea-dory-21/" data-type="post" data-id="924">Lavro Dory</a> this winter, so this saved me a bunch of work. It only weighs about 38 pounds and is known to be a good load carrying and rowing pram. Thanks twice Lee!</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="627" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-palooza-2022.jpg" alt="Pocket Yacht Palooza Boat Show in Port Townsend" class="wp-image-1912" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-palooza-2022.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-palooza-2022-375x250.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-palooza-2022-768x512.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="1912" /></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="627" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-palooza-2022-2.jpg" alt="More boats at the Pocket Yacht Palooza" class="wp-image-1913" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-palooza-2022-2.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-palooza-2022-2-375x250.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-palooza-2022-2-768x512.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="1913" /></figure>



<p>There were also a few cool boats on the beach. </p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="575" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-palooza-2022-3.jpg" alt="Boats at the beach at the Pocket Yacht Palooza" class="wp-image-1914" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-palooza-2022-3.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-palooza-2022-3-375x229.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-palooza-2022-3-768x470.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="1914" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Big Dave a Hvalsoe 16, Furious George a Chase Drake design, and Micheal&#8217;s Umiak sailing in.</figcaption></figure>



<p>Although not part of the show, there was also a really nice <a href="https://www.woodenboatstore.com/products/16-pulling-boat-shearwater" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Joel White designed Shearwater</a> rowing boat on the shore at the Maritime Center.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="649" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-palooza-2022-5.jpg" alt="Joel White Shearwater on the beach" class="wp-image-1916" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-palooza-2022-5.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-palooza-2022-5-375x259.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-palooza-2022-5-768x530.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="1916" /></figure>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Cruise to Mystery Bay</h2>



<p>There were around 12 boats that joined the cruise this year, and we all headed from Port Townsend to Mystery Bay on Marrowstone Island for the first night. I got a late start, not launching until nearly 11 am. I had not packed a thingo until that morning. Good thing too, because there was a solid wall of fog earlier in the morning across the bay.</p>



<p>I rowed the first few miles across the bay, south toward Indian Island. On the way across I was joined by new friend Larry in his <a href="https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/herreshoff-america" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">18’ Hereshoff America Catboat</a>, sans sailing rig. He was using it as a motor boat for this trip. I was glad more boats were not close to me that were that attractive to take pictures of, or I would never have been able to set my camera down and get back to the oars. Apparently fellow pocket yachter and friend Marty Loken had a hand in painting this boat. Although fiberglass, it looked like a wood craft. I learned that Larry also has a <a href="https://bluejacketboats.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">25&#8242; Blue Jacket motorboat</a>, which is another design I admire. We had much in common.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="622" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-1.jpg" alt="Hereshoff America Catboat, with Mount Baker in the background, and a WA state ferry." class="wp-image-1891" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-1.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-1-375x248.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-1-768x508.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="1891" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Larry&#8217;s Catboat, Mount Baker in the background, a fog bank, and the Port Townsend ferry.</figcaption></figure>



<p>The tide was coming in most of the day, and was flushing hard into Kilisut Harbor through the narrow channel between Rat Island and Indian Island. I hung out in the eddy at the point, waiting for a big power boat to muscle its way against the current and out of the channel, before rowing in. I beached on Rat Island for a short break and a snack, before continuing on. Rat Island was just teaming with bird life this year. Gulls and terns were in the thousands, and there were a multitude of seals in the current, protecting a large number of seal pups.</p>



<p>There was a little bit of wind out of the north, so not long after leaving the beach I raised sail, heading south, and had a really nice sail to Mystery Bay. It was such a nice wind that I sailed a bit deeper into Mystery Bay before coming back to the beach at the park.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="708" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-2.jpg" alt="" class="wp-image-1892" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-2.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-2-375x282.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-2-768x578.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="1892" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Lee&#8217;s grandson getting ready to do some fishing. </figcaption></figure>



<p>Many of our group spent the day and next night on the Mystery Bay State Park dock. I and two others of our group opted to beach our boats, and anchor out in the evening. In the picture below all three boats are using <a href="https://duckworks.com/anchor-buddy/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">anchor buddies</a> (basically giant 50&#8242; long bungee cords), to keep them from going dry as the tide goes out. They take a bit of experience to use. The trick is to not row or motor against the bungee cord coming to the beach. After setting your anchor with the anchor buddy attached,  spool out enough additional rode to reach the beach without stretching the bungee. Get your beach/retrieval line attached to your boat and at hand. Then haul in your anchor rode by hand, stretching the bungee until it is very tight. Attach the rode to your bow, push your boat out, and let the bungee pull your boat offshore, spooling out your shore line in your hand. Next, fix the shore line via another anchor in the shore sand, or a beach log, and you are ready to retrieve your boat when needed. A very handy tool indeed, that makes it so you don&#8217;t have to constantly tend your boat when the tide is dropping.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="684" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-5.jpg" alt="Three little boats at anchor at Mystery Bay" class="wp-image-1895" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-5.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-5-375x273.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-5-768x559.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="1895" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">My boat Joy, Roger&#8217;s Welsford designed Walkabout, and Kent&#8217;s Atkin design Walter Piel</figcaption></figure>



<p>Here is another shot of Kent rowing his Walter Piel. I fell in love with his boat <a href="https://www.insidewaters.com/2021-palooza-crooza-lots-of-rowing/" target="_blank" data-type="post" data-id="1241" rel="noreferrer noopener">last year</a> during this event.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="713" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-4.jpg" alt="Walter Piel rowing, low power motor boat" class="wp-image-1894" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-4.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-4-375x284.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-4-768x583.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="1894" /></figure>



<p>While hanging out in Mystery Bay my friend Randy and his wife got out on Stewball, their Flatiron Skiff.</p>


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<figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="1193" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-6-940x1193.jpg" alt="Flatiron Skiff sailing at Mystery Bay" class="wp-image-1896" style="width:600px" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-6-940x1193.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-6-375x476.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-6-768x975.jpg 768w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-6.jpg 1000w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="1896" /></figure>
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<p>And just like a year ago, some local folks also brought down their lovely sharpie.</p>


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<p>On my last little <a href="https://www.insidewaters.com/sucia-by-sail-and-oar/" data-type="post" data-id="1681">dinghy cruising trip in May out to Sucia</a>, I froze, particularly at night. And on this first day, and the following three, we all roasted. It was nearly 80 degrees, which is blazing hot for around here, particularly when it is reflecting off the water for hour after hour at you. I hung out in the shade as much as possible at Mystery Bay, and started to think about how I could add some shade option to my dinghy. My friend Roger had put up a little orange shade in the bow to tuck under that looked smart.</p>



<p>After a pleasant afternoon of chatting with my fellow boat heads, I made dinner and then rowed out to my anchorage spot for the night.</p>



<p>And I slept great, which was a relief compared to my last trip. I had bought a new sleeping pad, that was warm and much more comfortable on my hips and shoulders.  And my new gear compartments kept the foot zone of my bed clear. </p>



<p>Both Roger and I considered not putting up our tents that night because it was so warm. But it was a good thing we did, because there was a very heavy dew that night. Our tents were soaked in the morning.</p>


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<figure class="aligncenter size-full is-resized"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="800" height="1007" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/div-mod-4.jpg" alt="Inside my boat with the tent up, ready for sleeping" class="wp-image-1861" style="width:600px" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/div-mod-4.jpg 800w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/div-mod-4-375x472.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/div-mod-4-768x967.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px" data-mwl-img-id="1861" /></figure>
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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Next Day to Port Hadlock-Irondale</h2>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="657" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-9.jpg" alt="Sunrise colors at Mystery Bay" class="wp-image-1899" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-9.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-9-375x262.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-9-768x537.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="1899" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Sunrise in Mystery Bay From My Anchored Dinghy</figcaption></figure>



<p>Nearly all of our group was planning on moving on the next day, and that required getting going early, to make sure we did not get stuck by an incoming tide at the entrance to Kilisut Harbor. I cheated and rowed straight up the middle of Kilisut Harbor, while my fellow boaters that had keels had to wind around the marked channel to avoid going aground. It was going to be a negative tide that morning. </p>



<p>And in fact, on the way out, I came across a 26&#8242; Thunderbird, that draws 5&#8242;, that had sailed wide of the channel and ground out. They would have to wait for several hours for the tide to come back up to lift them off. And hopefully with that deep narrow keel that boat did not have further problems as the tide dropped. Sketchy situation.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="601" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-10.jpg" alt="Small sailboats exiting Kilisut Harbor" class="wp-image-1900" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-10.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-10-375x240.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-10-768x491.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="1900" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Christine in her Sparrow 16, about to exit the channel. A PT11 dinghy that was not part of our group ahead.</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="657" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-11.jpg" alt="Great Pelican sailboat with seals on shore behind" class="wp-image-1901" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-11.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-11-375x262.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-11-768x537.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="1901" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Diana in her Great Pelican, with hundreds of seals along the shore of Rat Island.</figcaption></figure>



<p>We all had a good sail down to Port Hadlock-Irondale. At one point the wind picked up to about 13mph, and there were some rolling waves coming behind me. I decided to put in a reef because my rudder was getting very heavy in the gusts. Lee got the nice picture of my boat below shortly after the waves mellowed.</p>


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<figure class="aligncenter size-full is-resized"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="700" height="763" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-21.jpg" alt="My boat Joy sailing" class="wp-image-1911" style="width:600px" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-21.jpg 700w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-21-375x409.jpg 375w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px" data-mwl-img-id="1911" /></figure>
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<p>Most of the group stopped in Hadlock and received what was apparently a wonderful tour of the <a href="https://www.nwswb.edu/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Northwest School of Wooden Boat Building</a>.  Since I live in the area and am familiar with the school, and Roger attended the school, we both skipped the tour and kept on sailing with the wind and tide through the PT Ship Canal.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">On to Port Ludlow</h2>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="648" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-12.jpg" alt="Port Townsend ship canal with a small sailboat below the bridge" class="wp-image-1902" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-12.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-12-375x259.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-12-768x529.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="1902" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Roger heading south through the ship canal.</figcaption></figure>



<p>Once on the other side, we decided to take a little break before heading on south to Port Ludlow. I was following Roger, and when I caught up with him I could swear he was anchored. But in fact he was just hove-to, using his mizzen and mainsail to just hover in essentially a fixed spot, against the wind and current. Not having that ability I sailed in closer to shore and anchored, to have some lunch. For about a half hour Roger just stayed mostly in place until I was underway again. That is a great feature of a boat with a mizzen sail. It was very cool to see, and will be a feature on a future boat of mine.</p>



<p>Roger and I continued on down the coast, with a really nice breeze behind us. Eventually I had to pull out my reef as the wind started to die off close to Port Ludlow. But there was just enough wind to make it. We pulled up to the dinghy dock, stretched out our legs, and bought some ice creams at the store. Hanging out in the shade we ran into good friends Tina and Marty, who were back in their slip on their beautiful motor sailor Raven, having recently return from one of three cruises they were doing this summer. We enjoyed a glass of wine with them in their nicely shaded cockpit, and talked boats.</p>



<p>We may have poked a bit of fun at all the power boat owners who only seem to know how to turn their boats when docking by using bow and stern thrusters. I used to sell big contactor/solenoid switches, and many were sold to replace those in bow thrusters that were burned out from doing that. Thrusters really are not designed to run for long periods, just short little bursts. But with so many new boaters entering the market in big expensive boats, it is not surprising I guess. If you don&#8217;t learn on small boats first, handling a big boat with lots of windage at the dock must be very stressful.</p>



<p>Next Roger and I made our way deeper into Port Ludlow Bay where there is a little park that we could beach our boats, and we set on out on a short hike.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="639" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-14.jpg" alt="Two small sail and oar boats on a shore at Port Ludlow" class="wp-image-1904" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-14.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-14-375x255.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-14-768x522.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="1904" /></figure>



<p>There are many trails around Port Ludlow that a boater can explore. It makes it a nice destination. On a little boat like mine, I must be able to get off the boat and stretch my legs, or it just becomes too uncomfortable after a few days. Particularly when the sun was so blazing hot as it had been these few days.</p>



<p>We were able to hike through mostly woods to the other side of the bay and up a little hill in the trees, a wonderful respite from the sun.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="652" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-15.jpg" alt="Shoreline park at Port Ludlow" class="wp-image-1905" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-15.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-15-375x260.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-15-768x533.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="1905" /></figure>



<p>On our hike Roger and I talked a bit about how uncomfortable small boating can be at times, and yet we keep coming back to it, and love it. But we constantly are thinking and talking about what solutions the next boat might provide to make it more comfortable and fun.</p>



<p>Small boating is such an interesting blend of joy and sometimes misery. You certainly are more in tune with the water and environment, which can be a double edged sword.</p>



<p>Finally it was time to head back, find our anchorages for the night, have some dinner while the sun still roasted us, and put up our tents for a good night&#8217;s sleep. Port Ludlow has some beautiful little wooded islands you can anchor next to. The downside is a bit of traffic noise from the road above. There were also a few kayakers out at sunset who were enjoying the bio-luminescence light show in the water, but did not seem to be concerned about talking loudly around our tents as we tried to catch some winks.</p>


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<figure class="aligncenter size-full is-resized"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="700" height="1020" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-16.jpg" alt="Walkabout sailboat at anchor with tent up" class="wp-image-1906" style="width:600px" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-16.jpg 700w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-16-375x546.jpg 375w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px" data-mwl-img-id="1906" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Roger&#8217;s Walkabout, with custom tent, a Junk rig, and electric outboard.</figcaption></figure>
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<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="845" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-17.jpg" alt="View out my tent at anchor" class="wp-image-1907" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-17.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-17-375x337.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-17-768x690.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="1907" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">The view out my boat tent that evening. </figcaption></figure>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Back to Port Townsend</h2>


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<figure class="alignright size-full is-resized"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="500" height="394" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-18.jpg" alt="Sunrise with moon and a star" class="wp-image-1908" style="width:500px" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-18.jpg 500w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-18-375x296.jpg 375w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px" data-mwl-img-id="1908" /></figure>
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<p>Hearing that the next day was going to be even hotter, with less wind for sailing and to cool us off, we decided to cut our trip a day short from initial plans.</p>



<p>I had another excellent sleep that night and woke about 4:30am. Poking my head out the tent door I was treated to a wonderful sight of the a fully visible moon with just a crescent shining, and a star below. </p>



<p>I packed away my sleeping gear and made some freeze dried eggs and bacon. The last time I had these it was kind of like egg and bacon soup, which is actually pretty dang good when you are starving. This time though I noticed the last line of instruction said to &#8220;drain off excess water&#8221;. Oh, that makes more sense. Much better!</p>



<p>I finished up with a cup of coffee and pulled the tent down and the anchor up. Rowing over to Roger I explained my plan to row like hell so that I could make it before the change of tide at the PT ship canal at 9am, and set off.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="627" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-20.jpg" alt="Sunrise on the Puget Sound" class="wp-image-1910" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-20.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-20-375x250.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-20-768x512.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="1910" /></figure>



<p>The sun was a blazing orb of hateful vengeance from the get-go. I was in long sleeves and sunscreen, and had a neck gator all the way over my head, leaving just a gap for my face, at 6am. Hats don&#8217;t do much good at these low sun angles.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="680" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-19.jpg" alt="View looking back into Port Ludlow" class="wp-image-1909" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-19.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-19-375x271.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/pocket-yacht-cruise-2022-19-768x556.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="1909" /></figure>



<p>I rowed nearly nine miles, in a little under three hours, in mostly calm waters. Other than a few seal heads, I did not see any wildlife or other boaters. I had the last of the outgoing tide with me, but a bit of a light headwind the last four miles. That effort brought me to the PT ship canal. Fortunately I had made it in time, the current was still flowing a bit my way, and I easily rowed through the canal. If you time this wrong you can be up against a 3-5 knot current. </p>



<p>I rowed over to <a href="https://www.insidewaters.com/exploring-chimacum-creek-by-dinghy/" data-type="post" data-id="1526">Chimacum Creek</a>, thinking I might row up it a bit, tuck into some shade, and have lunch. But it was a negative tide, and there was no Chimacum Creek, just a long tidal flat. Right then a light wind picked up, so I decided to sail on. Unfortunately it only took me about a mile before dying and I ended up rowing the majority of the way back to Port Townsend, a 16 mile day.</p>



<p>Later I learned that Roger had taken his time coming back up the coast. He had planned on waiting for enough water to rise to pass through the new cut and under the bridge that is between Marrowstone and Indian Islands. He mentioned regretting that decision because he had to hang out at anchor for five hours in the blazing sun.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Small Boating Is a Mindset, That Does Not Always Show Up</h2>



<p>While I normally try to immerse myself in nature on these trips, during this adventure my mind was pretty obsessively focused on thoughts of other boats, and how I might improve my experience. I had a stressful feeling when sailing, and overall was in a bit of a funk. The sun was torturous, and that is not said without experience. I lived in Tucson, AZ for nine years. And while the rowing was not too strenuous, my mind was very focused on how long I could keep doing it. And the seating in this boat, despite my changes to it, is still fairly uncomfortable after a few days. I could not drag my mind out of a suffering mindset. Sometimes it happens.</p>



<p>I did really enjoy meeting a number of new boating friends at the Palooza and this cruise. I was also very happy with the recent modification I had made to my gear storage on the boat, and my improved sleeping pad situation. I slept so much better. </p>



<p>The benefit of some lightweight first world &#8220;suffering&#8221; is the huge appreciation it brings for basic comforts. Once home, I could only marvel at the endless shade provided by our home&#8217;s roof, the very cushy sofa, the not bucket toilet, fresh cooked food, a big comfy bed, and the easy company of my wife and dog. A home is a wonderful machine of comfort and efficiency. </p>



<p>As for my boat and its discomforts, I am going to stick with it for a number of more years, learn to work within its limitations, and continue to improve it in little ways. And come at it with a better mindset.</p>



<p>Still, as I get older, I will need a more comfortable camp cruising sailboat that is more stable, and less dependent on human power. I have been drawing up plans for that boat for awhile, which I will share when I start building it.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Future Boat Improvements</h2>



<p>As per usual, I came back from this trip with a list of improvements I want to make to the boat before next time, having completed the list from last time to my satisfaction.</p>



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<li>Add some air vents to the tent, for humidity control when it is closed up</li>



<li>Get a better ice cooler situation</li>



<li>Taper the looms on the oars for better balance, in addition to the lead I already put in the handles</li>



<li>Consider some shade options on the boat that can be put up quickly and moved around</li>
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					<description><![CDATA[A few weeks ago I finally started the work on my Lavro Dory. My plans for the boat required removing the old cabin, old motor, and pretty much everything else inside. Removing the cabin was not too hard. It was ... <a title="Lavro Sea Dory Rebuild Begins" class="read-more" href="https://www.insidewaters.com/lavro-sea-dory-rebuild-begins/" aria-label="Read more about Lavro Sea Dory Rebuild Begins">Read More</a>]]></description>
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<p>A few weeks ago I finally started the work on my <a href="https://www.insidewaters.com/lavro-sea-dory-21/" data-type="post" data-id="924">Lavro Dory</a>. My plans for the boat required removing the old cabin, old motor, and pretty much everything else inside.</p>



<p>Removing the cabin was not too hard. It was made to come off, with bolts around the edge. I pulled the bolts and other hardware off, strapped it up to my chain hoist. I had to cut a few electrical cords and disconnect the fuel fill at the bow, and off it came. With the cabin off the boat reminded me a bit of a Panga hull, except for the stern.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="705" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-cabin-pulled.jpg" alt="Old cabin removal" class="wp-image-1876" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-cabin-pulled.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-cabin-pulled-375x281.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-cabin-pulled-768x576.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="1876" /></figure>



<p>And hour of work with the sawzall and it was in pieces in the back of my truck for the next dump run. I have a few friends who own these boats, so I kept the windows in case they might need a replacement.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="705" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-sawzall.jpg" alt="Cutting up the old cabin with a Sawzall" class="wp-image-1875" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-sawzall.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-sawzall-375x281.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-sawzall-768x576.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="1875" /></figure>



<p>Next I pulled the old 85hp Suzuki 2 stroke outboard, that weighed about 260 lbs. It was not as difficult as I imagined, and I soon had it hauled up on the chain hoist, with just enough clearance to pull the boat out from below it.</p>


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<figure class="aligncenter size-full is-resized"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="700" height="933" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-old-motor.jpg" alt="Pulling out the old 2 stroke motor" class="wp-image-1883" style="width:600px" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-old-motor.jpg 700w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-old-motor-375x500.jpg 375w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px" data-mwl-img-id="1883" /></figure>
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<p>Next out came the seats and and steering console. A few friends took the seats. And about a week later I sold the old 2 stroke motor to a fellow, and he also took the entire steering console along with a bunch of other stuff I thought was going to the dump.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="705" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-seats.jpg" alt="Removing the seats and steering console" class="wp-image-1884" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-seats.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-seats-375x281.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-seats-768x576.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="1884" /></figure>


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<figure class="aligncenter size-full is-resized"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="700" height="818" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-inside.jpg" alt="Nearly empty inside now" class="wp-image-1882" style="width:600px" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-inside.jpg 700w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-inside-375x438.jpg 375w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px" data-mwl-img-id="1882" /></figure>
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<p>Everything was easy until I got to removing the fuel tank, which turned into a big pain in the butt, and a lot of nervous work. Gasoline fuel tanks are a serious explosion hazard. My father is a welder who has made many aluminum marine fuel tanks, and I recalled many horror stories of deaths from explosions when guys started working on tanks they thought had no fumes or fuel.</p>



<p>The previous owner had drilled a hole in the top, and later capped it with a stainless bolt. That, plus the tank&#8217;s age, and where it was placed in the boat, all made me decide to remove the tank and replace it with a new one. The owner told me the fuel tank was empty. But it smelled of fuel. So I figured there must just be a little inside. I decided to flood the tank with water to displace any gas fumes. Well, doing that I discovered that the tank in fact had a bunch of old fuel in it, and some overflowed, which made an awful stench and cleanup problem. It is a big 43 gallon tank.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="705" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-fueltank-1.jpg" alt="Getting ready to pull the fuel tank out" class="wp-image-1878" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-fueltank-1.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-fueltank-1-375x281.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-fueltank-1-768x576.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="1878" /></figure>



<p>Once I finally had all the old fuel siphoned off into an old portable tank, I once again filled the tank to the brim with water. With that water still in it, I cut a hole in the top with a sawzall. This allowed me to get inside to get any remaining fluid out and any fumes. I planned on sticking a 2&#215;4 inside through this hole and using that to pull the tank out with the chain hoist. I could not figure out how the tank was held in place, and had made an assumption that they had glued the bottom directly to the floor of the boat.</p>



<p>That turned out to be incorrect, which I discovered by lifting the entire bow of the boat up when trying to remove it.</p>



<p>Upon closer inspection I realized that the builders had fiberglassed over aluminum tabs that were sticking out of the sides of the aluminum fuel tank. And then they built the v-berth over the top of it.</p>



<p>So to remove the tank I had to cut out the v-berth, and then chip away the fiberglass holding the tank down. And then the tank came free easily.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="555" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-fueltank-2.jpg" alt="V-berth cut away" class="wp-image-1879" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-fueltank-2.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-fueltank-2-375x221.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-fueltank-2-768x453.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="1879" /></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="523" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-fueltank-3.jpg" alt="Aluminum tabs on fuel tank uncovered from fiberglass" class="wp-image-1880" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-fueltank-3.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-fueltank-3-375x209.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-fueltank-3-768x427.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="1880" /></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="940" height="742" src="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-fueltank-4.jpg" alt="Tank removed" class="wp-image-1881" srcset="https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-fueltank-4.jpg 940w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-fueltank-4-375x296.jpg 375w, https://www.insidewaters.com/wp-content/uploads/lavro-gutted-fueltank-4-768x606.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px" data-mwl-img-id="1881" /></figure>



<p>I am glad I got it out. It had not been installed correctly, although it did seem to have lasted 40 years despite this. But you are supposed to have an air gap around all surfaces of an aluminum tank for corrosion reasons, and this one was set right down on the floor, with a bit of fiberglass wrapped around it on the back edge, which would trap water against it.</p>



<p>I don&#8217;t like the idea of the tank in the bow anyway. The weight balance in the boat would change as the fuel level dropped. And I did not want a fuel tank inside my new cabin. Instead I will have two tanks placed mid-ship, so that weight balance will not change as the fuel level adjusts. And they will be easily removable for inspection from the cockpit, and have vents out the hull sides.</p>



<p>Moving on I will continue stripping out any and all extra stuff from the hull, to reduce weight before I start building on it.</p>



<p>And then the big challenge is getting it off the trailer, and into the smaller area of my shop that I can close off and heat, for winter epoxy work. Stay tuned!</p>



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